All those that are attempting to distort the narrative about the tragic plight of Miss Ese Oruru are evil and we commit them to God's judgement. The facts are as follows. She is 14 years old and not 18 and she was abducted from her home. She did not leave her home freely or of her own volition.She was cruelly and wickedly carried away and stolen from her parents, family and loved ones and forcefully taken by complete strangers to a distant land that she had never been before on the other side of the country.
This
is not a love story about two inseparable young people: it is a story
about pedophilia, child abduction, kidnapping, human trafficking,
slavery, rape, impunity, wickedness and ritual sex and Emir Sanusi has a
case to answer. That little girl has been raped over and over again and she may well have aids, VVF or some other strange sexual disease by now.
Instead of sympathizing with her and
considering the fact that she may never be the same again in view of the
physical and mental torture and trauma that she has suffered over the
last few months, some misguided souls and shameless commentators have
the temerity to come to social media and say that she was old enough to
"get it" whilst others say that she ''loved it'' and ''wanted it''. I am
utterly disgusted and appauld by these sentiments. Where is the
humanity of those that speak and think like this? Where is their
compassion and where is their soul?
May God judge them and may
their own infant daughters be abducted, forcefully Islamised, raped,
enslaved and kept against their will as a sex slave in an Emir's palace
in the same way that Ese was.
Meanwhile I just watched an
AIT video in which 14 year old Ese Oruru's mother claimed that her
daughters abductors said that it was the Emir of Kano himself that
ordered her daughters abduction and that she was kept in his palace for
over one year for his pleasure. If this is true it confirms the
suspicion that the Emir is culpable. If what she has said is true it
also proves that the Emir is not only a praticing pedophile but also a
very sick man and he must be held accountable.
It is important that Emir
Sanusi clears the air and tells us precisely what he did with this
little girl otherwise we are entitled to assume the worse and believe
what Ese's mother has told us. Quite apart from that we are compelled to
ask whether this sort of thing has happened before and how widespread
it is? How many other little girls have been stolen from their homes and
forced to join harems all over the nation?
The famous high society
blogger and respected celebrity Miss Linda Ikeji has just exposed yet
another case. This time it is a young 17 year old christian girl, by the
name of Miss Patience Paul, who has been abducted from her home,
parents and loved ones in Benue state, forcefully taken to Sokoto state
and kept there against her will in the Sultan's palace.
Evidently we live in a
strange country where evil is swept under the carpet and often
justified. We live in a country where those that expose such evil
abominations and speak truth are demonised, hated, despised and, more
often than not, threatened with violence, persecution, intimidation,
arrest, spurious criminal investigations and baseless civil court
actions. More often than not this is the price of speaking the truth and
exposing evil in Nigeria.
There is clearly a
conspiracy of silence about the perpetuation of evil in this country
amongst the ruling elite. The feeling is that anyone can get away with
anything providing they belong to a particular circle and class and
providing they have money and power. And it is because they have money
and power and they have powerful friends in government and in the
political class that they feel that they can silence, crush, kill,
abduct, cripple, ruin, sue and jail anybody that tests their will and
crosses them or that exposes the truth about their blood-chilling and
perverse ways.
That is the reality of
Nigeria and it is a sad and sorry one. All I can say is thank God for
the media and particularly for the Punch newspaper who started the ball
rolling last Sunday. If not for their cover story about Ese with all
those pictures on their front page the little girl would not be free and
at home with her family today. Instead she would have still been in
slavery and captivity at the Emir of Kano's palace.
We should also thank the
Nation newspaper particularly for their timely editorial on this issue
which was published on 1st March and which raised some pertinent
questions and offered wise counsel about the way forward. The Punch, the
Nation, AIT, Channels, Tribune, the Sun, Vanguard, Thisday and all the
other newspaper titles and television stations in the Nigerian media and
social media has done what no-one else or no other group could do.
Not even the Federal
Government, the state governments, the political parties, the
politicians, the security agencies, the lawyers or the so-called human
rights groups could do what they managed to do or achieve what they have
achieved. They have helped to secure the freedom of a helpless and
defenseless little girl from slavery, torment, humiliation, destruction,
death, disease and bondage and they have brought her home safely to her
parents. We need more of this. Kudos to them and God bless them all.
And may God damn and shame those that chose to remain silent and look
the other way.
136 comments:
Dis is getting serious.... I hope we address dis issue now so as to save our future generations..... Wat a world...
Another bull crap coming from FFK, grow up man, jezzz!
Calm down we've been on this issue for days, but you will always try to overheat the polity and use it to settle political scores. The Emir has come out to state his own side of the story, must you rope him in to satisfy your weak emotion.
Your narrative to any socio-political discourse is always sickening.
. ~BONARIO~says so via NOKIA LUMIA
I love the part where he hails Linda blog,hmmmmmmm
Why are they always found in a palace? This thing needs to be checked properly.
Good one
LoL FFK u shd be on paternity leave, I guess ure pretty much bored already!
-D great anonymous now as Vivian Reginalds
Well said my man ffk.
I'm with you on this FFK 100%. Can you imagine what one stupid so call Human right lawyer was quoted to have said about the matter. May his daughter be adopted by some pedophiles and abused.
Well written.
Hmnnn. FFK always thinks he has somtn to say. He obviously loves listening to d sound of his voice. How on earth would you choose to believe d mother of Ese, whose information is purely based on hearsay, then disregard Sanusi's statement. FFK is just a bigot. He hates Islam and everytn Islam represents and he looks fr every opportunity to tarnish d image of d religion. Did u see d girl at d Sanusi's palace? If u didn't, and no reliable individual has come to tell u she was seen at d palace, then why go ahead and attack d emir's person? FFK is just a shameless fool. What is his own moral standard like. An idiot of his age that has fathered a child out of wedlock and still glamorises it. Is dat a good example? Stupid and foolish hypocritic bigot.
I love fani kayode article dis guy headdon dey correct wella he even paid linda compliments ho nice his eastern fiancée has a calming and soothing effect on him way to fani boy
Chai. Ffk now u say the truth
hahahahaha MUST READ: I FOUND HIM AND MY LIFE CHANGED
I no fit for epistle abeg. Linda take note!
Ese oruru and olajumoke which one is more treading now cause am getting bored of their story now..LINDA OBSERVE CAREFULLY
Well said,and whosoever think what they have done is right, may same be their potion.
With all these, they are still our Honorable leaders. Why do you people think that this will not lead to greater separation in Nigeria ? Why do you people think that this forceful ideals will not encourage more people to support biafra? Please you people should know that the way you live in Nigeria do tarnish our image to the outside world. How can you call 14yrs old girl to be 17 over night?
Similar stuff like this and you will think its a little thing separated a whole PDP. The mighty always fall with little pressure.
Strange things happening. I now get the whole gist. What in heavens name is wrong with these Muslims??? What sort of terrorism, human trafficking and slavery is this? Islam is evil...a big one at that. Nothing good comes from them. If they are not fighting, they are killing, bombing, beheading, kidnapping,abducting and rapping!! God please save us all from the hands of these devils in human body.
Waooo my man is now talking i have being waitingfor u sir.
Emir of kano is not only a terrorist but also pedophile the girl is 14 not 18 and the boy is 40 years.
May God bless u sir for all this true all hausas need to be wipe out of the world they are not only terrorist and pedophiles but kidnappers of girls shame to all hausas and there useless supporters.
#sad indeed
Waooo my man is now talking i have being waitingfor u sir.
Emir of kano is not only a terrorist but also pedophile the girl is 14 not 18 and the boy is 40 years.
May God bless u sir for all this true all hausas need to be wipe out of the world they are not only terrorist and pedophiles but kidnappers of girls shame to all hausas and there useless supporters.
#sad indeed
FFK,you just want to be in the news all the time,Mr ANYTHING to make me relevant
God bless u ffk for being fearlessly truthful. When keyamo got involved and distorted d facts about her age,thats when i knew a highly placed individual might be implicated in dis matter in d person of d emir of kano. If i recall he married an underaged girl last year but said he wont consumate d marriage til shes of full age, now we knw dats all bullshit. Dis man is a despicable person and a paedophile. Further investigations should be done on dis bastard. God expose all dis evil abokis
God bless you abundantly for speaking the truth.May those who are involved in this shameful act rot in hell.AMEN!!
Jesus
This happens in nija also?
It is well
...merited happiness
And what those the sharia police or court have to do with a Christian girl....wen we hv the constitution of Nigeria or do we hv two laws in Nigeria. .... am confused here
Abi this one is now the new olajumoke ba? Ok o
Is this now the new aboki trend? They should quickly go to the network used and obtain evidence as the girl's mother claimed.
for the first time, well said Mr FFK.
There are so many conflicting theories out there
In some; she was allegedly kidnapped, others she went on her own free will& d rest says d story is concocted
Hmm; anyone it's she should plz be returned back home.
Hmmm.. Nawa oo
Enugu's second shoe designer
It is really sad to see young Nigerians posting trash about a very disgusting situation. Whether the girl is 17 or 14, fact is, she is a minor. whether she went willingly or forcefully, fact is, she is a minor. anyone, male or female that is above 18 has no right whatsoever to have any sexual thoughts or dealings with one below. it is a crime, if you read the constitution, you'll see this. the whole world knows this. but in Nigeria, even a guy the claims to be a university graduate won't see the monstrocity in this. There are millions of girls 18+ in Nigeria, it's only a pedophile that would go after a girl below 18. I'd wish the same thing on the daughters of those in support of this, but then, i can't cause two wrongs will never make a right.
Btw, there's nothing more important than protecting the future (our young) and giving them the right orientation. People need to be made example of in this country before the gravity of this stupidity will end.
Let's endevour to emancipate ourselves from ignorance, stupidity and mental slavery.
The demonic empire of Kano.
Hmm.
Lets be very careful. We are in a world where anyone and everyone can be given a little insensitive and lies will flow.
They even changed her name to Ashia. Pls tune in Channel news now and hear d mother speaks abt d abduction and how she went to d palace of Emir aft 3days of her daughters disappearance and saw Ese with (Ichafu)looking at her like mumu. Pls tune in.
Good piece
Noticed.
FFK looking for trouble since 1800. Truth is we don't even know what to believe again but the good thing is that the girl is home and save.
My man my man...
Spit tha truth always!!!
Na wah oh....
His opinion though
FFK I now understand how jobless ure these days for u to write such a long un confirmed theory of urs I sure pity um
I love this man, seems he's the only one that's noticing what's brewing in this country Nigeria. All of a sudden every other person has become mute, keep preaching the bitter truth.
Thanks to social media.
#Dakinzz
Festus keyamo may your daughter be abducted and taken to the north for supporting this, stupid useless man, thanks FFK
Nigerians this is a worrisome situation that we fund ourselves, that somebody kidnaped another person's child kept in respected home and despite the efforts made by her family to get her released but to no avail. I challenge our security agencies to think outside the box in their investigations, who know if the kidnapper is BH recruiter and for how long has he being in this act?
Nice write up
FFK being making sense since 1800
FFK is my big mentor in some way love him for always standing for the truth
FFK! Your write-up though brilliant but full of sentiments. Thank God you are not a judge because u would have delivered judgments based on sentiments. You painted this picture as if you were there. Am beginning to suspect your relationship with Linda because she is the one disturbing us with your noise on LIB.
Festus keyamo for making such a statement should be dismissed as the EFCC counsel. If it was in civilized countries such a statement could land you in trouble. I call on the likes of Linda ikeji, Abike Dabiri, association of women lawyers etc to strongly condemn the statement by that illiterate lawyer called festus keyamo. Festus takes bribes from corrupt officials to turn them state witnesses, we know what you do.
FFK! Your write-up though brilliant but full of sentiments. Thank God you are not a judge because u would have delivered judgments based on sentiments. You painted this picture as if you were there. Am beginning to suspect your relationship with Linda because she is the one disturbing us with your noise on LIB.
He is very right FFK
Eziokwu
Hmmmm na wa oooo
He even lied about the other girl. She's 15 and lives in sokoto not Benue. FFK go get a job. Linda you posted this because he called you high society and respected. Nonsense
Abike cannot do much again cos she gat to dey loyal to d govt now... dee
FFK on point, a man full of wisdom nd I like hell admire his courage! Hw many elites in govt/private position could speak d bitter truth without fear or favour like he jus did! I bet none, pls kp u d wk FFK, d lord will always protect u 4 standing by d truth, Gbagam!!
Don't mind him. He is eyeing Linda.
Hausa man is our problem in this country. Abroad u can bag 25 years for this kind of act. But in Nigeria it is Hausa man's sharia law to marry under aged. Please are these hausas caused with this their hopeless religion? Was it not a senator that celebrated marriage with a minor? It's a pity we are all in this one chance bus with d Hausa fulani folks
Hausa man is our problem in this country. Abroad u can bag 25 years for this kind of act. But in Nigeria it is Hausa man's sharia law to marry under aged. Please are these hausas caused with this their hopeless religion? Was it not a senator that celebrated marriage with a minor? It's a pity we are all in this one chance bus with d Hausa fulani folks
I believe it's sex rituals. You can't get the real true story from that girl, she must have been charmed by now. She needs deliverance.
A little bit of truth in what he said tho.....kindly check my blog for more news amenosas.blogspot.com
Obviously, FFK and Fayose will soon get what they've been searching in the anus of northerners. Let them keep exaggerating and overheating up issues that has to do with the north.
U r a big fool...u hausa goat...I pray ur 12 year old sister shld be forcefully abducted n raped...fool
Thunder fire ur whole generation
U Must be Eating Shit and drinking urine to Call this Bull Crap" never know that ur this useless. TUEHHHHHHHH
We don hear oooooo.
My sentiments exactly. FFK makes a loota sense, for once!
That's Because Islam's Are Evil" the World would have been a better place without them(islam's). Useless people.
Amen.
Emir Paedophile is that u?
So Bona u are this stupid. Chei.
FFK on Point! May God bless u For saying this Bitter truth as it is.
**Shorking*
You just effortlessly sounded stupid.
Jesus!!! please give us Biafra and end all these .......... Thank you for answering.
After 7 months the emir spoke.
Honesty, the very first thought that came to my mind was is the Emir of Kano a Peadophile? I then decided to read FFK article because the feeling I had was so strong and it was that the Emir of Kano is a paedophile. Had stories about him like this while he was in UBA. Nigerians the evil days and evil doers are here. Gird you loins.
What kind of a person are you? Honestly. U certainly support evil so long as it's from your people or religion. U are one of d biggest problems in Nigeria. I mean that with all I have at stake. Evil!!!!
Honesty, the very first thought that came to my mind was is the Emir of Kano a Peadophile? I then decided to read FFK article because the feeling I had was so strong and it was that the Emir of Kano is a paedophile. Had stories about him like this while he was in UBA. Nigerians the evil days and evil doers are here. I say YES.Sanusi is a Paedophile. Gird you loins.
Honesty, the very first thought that came to my mind was is the Emir of Kano a Peadophile? I then decided to read FFK article because the feeling I had was so strong and it was that the Emir of Kano is a paedophile. Had stories about him like this while he was in UBA. Nigerians the evil days and evil doers are here. I say YES.Sanusi is a Paedophile. Gird you loins. Linda if you like do not publish it.
Honestly, they need to explain this palace keeping of abducted girls
I agree totally with FFK. Emir Sanusi is a Paedopile
U are foolish. Why believe a stranger to the girl, instead of believIng the mother to the girl? Did u listen to yourself sound foolish? Didn't you hear mother explain? Was her story a hearsay story? Didn't u hear who replied her? I have 2 friends who has been part of an NGO working on this since the last quarter of last year
I can't bear the oaf ffk. Bigoted insecure rabid hater of all things. Go away and feed your kid. You are a boring no one trying to stay relevant. We don't need your opinions. Chioma anasoh etc can listen leave nigeria go home to Ghana.
Listen! More sickening is your sensibility. How can you even fault this piece??!! Must you take a stupid political view on all issues even when it bothers on the most serious things like this one. Let me make it easy for you; close your eyes and imagine that Ese is your sister and 14years old. I swear you won't sound this way. I hope u feel foolish and rightly so for even trying to sideline the seriousness of this matter and cunningly towing a political line to all of this. You're pathetic really mate!
FFK been mad since 1880
The demonic ETUK fattening room slavery dumbo
This matter is clean cut! This girl was abducted and sold into sex slavery! Emir of kano MUST be questioned! There is evidence! All of you who didn't tune in 2 channels.. the girl's mother said she went to the emir's palace 3days after her daughter was kidnapped and d girl couldn't recognize her! She was probably hypnotized! Sanusi MUST be questioned! If he needs little girls for Sexual pleasure there are a lot of them in the north.. Enjoy your people! Leave our southern girls for us! Austa
He had a boy from akin osuntokun housegirl in abuja so precious yours is not the first.
I don't dis story again u ppl re confusing me.d part where I stop in both patience nd ese story is dat d family already knows where dis girls re why re they not goin to get their children why wait for ppl to help get them
Honesty, the very first thought that came to my mind was is the Emir of Kano a Peadophile? I then decided to read FFK article because the feeling I had was so strong and it was that the Emir of Kano is a paedophile. Had stories about him like this while he was in UBA. Nigerians the evil days and evil doers are here. Gird you loins.
Thank u sir, some people have sold their conscience. Is it how marriage is conducted in Islam? What is that little girl doing in Emir's Palace? If they claim that the minor is married to her abductor, is the Emir's Palace the house of the abductor? If the Palace is not part of this problem, why didn't the Emir order for the arrest of the abductor? Why did it take them this long to resolve this issue?(thanks to the newspaper publication) I found those so called human right lawyers supporting this daylight criminal act most disgusting and unfortunate. They have all lost my respect. They ought to know that the act of hypnotizing a child is very simply, if in doubt go and ask those female suicide bombers. Indeed all well meaning Nigerians and entire world should please rise up now in support of this poor girl and her family by ensuring that justice is served on all who were indicted in this abduction saga.
I stand with FFK.
MEANWHILE..famous high society blogger and respected celebrity Miss Linda Ikeji ....
This is more than a Chieftaincy title o...u go wash am o ......World famous Linda
Ak100
Look at u paedophile incarnate!
There are people who still ve conscience in this country. This is an extract by The Muslim Rights Concern (MURIC) while calling for the prosecution of the abductor of Miss Ese: “The fact that Yunusa is a Muslim cannot becloud our sense of justice. The Qur’an commands Muslims to ‘…Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses of Allah, even if the case is against yourselves, or your parents, or your family, and whether it is against a rich or poor man… (Qur’an 4:135).”
ffk on point . No you win
And you probably, in your deluded mindset, think your use of cheap grammar has justified your daft comment on this narrative?
Pedophilia in high places. FFK has said it all. Kudos to punch and the Nigerian media in general. May God have mercy and protect FFK. He speaks the truth openly. As for Ese, may God help you overcome the damage done to you by these evil men
Keep getting bored Joshua until your own daughter is kidnapped some day and forcefully raped and islamized at a tender age.
Lord Lugard fault still, am sure is not resting well! Don't know how you will go and join humanbeing with semi human cows! Mtshewwww!
Honesty, the very first thought that came to my mind was is the Emir of Kano a Peadophile? I then decided to read FFK article because the feeling I had was so strong and it was that the Emir of Kano is a paedophile. Had stories about him like this while he was in UBA. Nigerians the evil days and evil doers are here. Gird you loins.
May God sincerely punish you this idiot! It's apparent you didn't read this writeup but choose to call it bullcrap! Islamic Asshole! What a Cursed pedophilic religion!! Anumpama
Agu dobikwa gi onu there!!
May God sincerely punish you this idiot! It's apparent you didn't read this writeup but choose to call it bullcrap! Islamic Asshole! What a Cursed pedophilic religion!! Anumpama
Agu dobikwa gi onu there!!
FFK the mere fact that you write so well does not mean you write the truth. You need to be careful with your heating up the polity. Islamisation? What the hell is that? So the issue now is Islam, Emirs, and the Northern part of Nigeria? You are indeed in need of a pulse check.
Hmmmmmm
This just shows what happened to the Chibok girls. They might be in your neighbourhood married to one mallam. And brain washed just like this one to believe that she is in the place God destined her to be
See aboki say jeez...lol
and y wud u choose to believe d emir who might be using his powers to distort the story
FFK on point. It is good to always speak the truth. If you see evil and refuse to rebuke it , you are part and parcel of that evil. Mind you, the Great Judge is coming soon to end all these wickednesses in high places.
He claims she was kept in the Emir's palace for 1 year. That is not true as the girl was taken August 2015?
Kudos to FFK for speaking out vociferously on this matter. I admire your courage and flawless command of English which is both artistic and lucid. I totally agree with you that there is a conspiracy of silence among the ruling class while evil is perpetuated in the land just for some political advantage however I strongly condemn the part you ridiculed the Emir of Kano, that man doesn't look at all like the image you painted of him. I personally think he is a respectable gentleman and deserves your unalloyed apology despite diverse political interests.
FFK on it again, kuddos elder statesman. You are always on the truth and God will continue to bless you because you are fearless and always stand on the side of the truth.
Shut ur mouth up. Did u read what he said@all. Don't just speak bad at him becos he is saying the truth
Guy, berra shut up, if u have no good opinion over dis issue, may I ask you, was your mother abducted by your father at age of 14 ,to give birth to a framework like you called Bona, abi na Cona
Thunder will surely fire ur generation. Cos I will personally ensure that ur daughter be taken to d militants camp for marriage to asari dokubo.
May God judge them and may their own infant daughters be abducted, forcefully Islamised, raped, enslaved and kept against their will as a sex slave in an Emir's palace in the same way that Ese was.
AMEN to this o
He's on point.
Bonario and Aboki are you guys living in Kano State? If not... shut up
Time to expose this wicked people's evil.
That's why we want BIAFRA, how can we be living with anumanu.
I wonder why these Hausa men love sex more than anything
it wil also happen to ur sisters aboki bt dis time they wil be taken to syria to isis camp as sex slaves,u stupid aboki
Miss linda thank you so much for being the voice of the people.
As i am writing to you now, there are lives that are in danger in Oba market at Igando alimosho L.G.A. Owners of the So Called Oba market at Igando Bustop woke up on Monday 29th February 2016 and saw their shops been demolished without notice. A widow who borrowed money to buy a shop before this incident just gave up after hearing the news, so many poor people that have no voice to speak are asking why?. it was said that The Oba of Igando sold off the market without the consent of the Government. it is obvious that Poor traders that borrowed money to secure shops at that market are likely to loose it and that is injustice to humanity. Please i am appealing to you to use your good office and save the lives of poor traders who own shops in that market. The pics of the fainted widow i sighted the faithful day made me to write to you. #Stopinjustice@Igandomarket# I shall be very grateful if this report is publish to the whole world. Thank you and remain blessed for life. Amen.
Like play like play Linda is fast becoming a collosus in the Nations information world..
It means many evil doers in power would either court her or try to neutralize her for her mostly truthful(98%) news delivery..her fearlessness is epic..but Linda now that u have gotten to d point where more Nigerian youth read your blog than listen to nta and ait combined,u need to up d standard of content placement...
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Anonymous invesment ministries
Miracle branch aka ariara center
If she like make she follow a Syrian man go Syria....her life her bullshit.....
Shut up.
U re a dumb fuck.. bloody scum
Ese's case is not the first of its kind, it's only the first to have received attention all thanks to blogers like u my darling linda...a lot of similar cases are happening everyday, just open a complaint portal and see the number of cases you will receive
Shut up bonario!! There was a time I respected u! You need to upgrade your sense!
God who knows the truth will reward all of them accordingly. As many of them that have meted this harshness on ESE, they will never go unpunished till their fourth generation
But why dont they abduct from the North? Why are they now coming to the South to abduct? Any why vunerable young teenage girls? I hope this is not boko haram spreading to the South or Islamising Nigeria gradually to the South?.....Just saying
FFK e be like say you like Linda. You too like Igbo girls. Abeg go siddon for corner.
FFK i hope you are not sleeping with Linda? Because they way you praise her and defend her these days i no understand.....just saying
FFK you never talk your mind. E be like say u dey eye this Linda oh. Anyway, FFK is a handsome man and Linda is a fine girl. So nothing wrong if una date but no forget say mama Lotana dey corner dey watch oh.
Quite unfortunate, that you still talk like this and view issues in this manner. More sinister, is your claim to be educated and civilized. No pity for your mental disorder, it replicates in everything you do and say. Why cant you champion the course of establishing more psychatric hospitals across the nation, with you as the first patient.. That could have been more better than you being among able and rightful thinking human beings. FKK you are disgrace to your generation in a whole and to the enlightened Yoruba race in Particular.
But he's saying d truth.
That stupid moment when the same person Commented three times in a roll under the guise of anonymous pretending to be three different pple saying the same thing. I can smell @aboki hands all over this
@bonaro ur sentimental love for the North is understandable but truth must be told from time to time. That FFK has said and made silly accusations before doesn't mean he doesn't say the raw truth sometimes
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