Is sacking them the way forward? Please share your thoughts
Monday 7 May 2012
Lagos State Government sack all striking doctors
Is sacking them the way forward? Please share your thoughts
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Is sacking them the way forward? Please share your thoughts
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my aunt went to lasuth critically ill. nobody to attend to her. it is a welcome development.these doctors have forgotten their hippocratic oath. they are very selfish. good riddance to bad rubbish.
Wow!!!! Dats Good news, new job opportunities*smiles *
is this a joke???????
This is not the solution, surely. Fashola should be more creative than this.
This is not fair. Who can try this with assu? Most strikes are called on by union leaders, as a result of demands based on thorough investigation of the system. Mr fashola, you no try o at all.
U guys are jokers just like BRF. Where will U̶̲̥̅̊ get 1000 doctors of different cadres Απϑ specialties, willing to collect that nonsense salary.
Better go to Private Hospital Απϑ pay through your eyeballs. The Govt has just stylishly privatised healthcare. Na the citizens go lose oh.
Instead of lagosians to come out to the street Απϑ show solidarity with the Doctors.
So,the government refuses †̥ pay the salary agreed upon since 2009 and then issues queries and sack letters because a warning strike was embarked upon. Then the idiot person above is saying its deserved? May ur generation suffer unemployment! Stupid buffoon.wait till yu hv a child who is a dr. Do yu even know what d hippocratic oath says? When it comes todoctors everyone wants †̥ be a connoisseur of knowledge.do I come †̥ dictate †̥ Ʋ in ur own profession?
I support this to the T! Like seriously, what the heck are they thinking? They know the impact of their 5mins absence in the larger society, not to talk of days of off-service. Include to my irritation their non-attendance to 'ER' patients.
What rubbish?? Pa Fashola you no try at all.... Am highly disappointed
Don't think tats the best way to handle the issue
I hope they will not use pple for experiment oooh ha new doctors? that is serious oooh very dangerous
All theses idiots supporting Fashola, U people r crazy. Doctors do not have the mandate of the electorate to provide amenities of which health is one. THE STUPID GOVERNMENT DOES!!! una nor dey try. Everytime ppl strike, u want to "appeal to them. Y cant u appeal to the government instead?"
I support, that is the kind of action Nigerians need. If Jonah can be like this, everyone would seat up! Rubbish. People are dying by the minute. Some of these Doctors are so arrogant and act as if they are doing you a favour especially that hopeless dirty LUTH. Visited a relative their once, you need to see how the baby doctor spoke to patients and those nurses are pathetic, Gosh!
Linda, wrong picture.. this is LUTH, not LASUTH. LUTH is not Lagos State.
Before u open ur mouth and condemn doctors,u should investigate thoroughly as to why they are striking,atyms silence to mask ignorance is wisdom in itself....doctors wrk like slaves,putting wrk before family,exposing thmslves to untold health risks,wrk unbelievable hours and get paid rubbish....doctors cnt send their kids to good skls,afford decent accomodation,buy decent cars...u need to be in the system to understand...and wt exctly r they fightn for??....wt was promised them for years nw...its easy to waste money on brthdays...over 1billion wnt for tinubus circus of a bday...and other wastefl ventures,bt wn it cms to doing wt it ryt,they shy away....this is merely a bluff and we see it as such...never in the history of a democracy has ths happened....fashola is a shame to the judicial system as ths is illegal and a disappointmnt to democracy....Dr.F
7years in med skul,man has a wife n 3kids,,, 120k err month n u say he shudnt strike??? Smh @ u
Fashola is a disgrace. Instead of him to call them for dialogue, he sacks them he and that stupid commissioner for health. Their colleagues at the federal level are taking almost 100% what they are taking and that is the contention, in fact other state hospitals in other states are complying and fashola has refused to comply or even reach a compromise with them. Sacking is not the solution and people want him to be president of Nigeria, una go just impose Hitler on una self. shior!!!!!!!
ONOME says...........
Oh dear,when a bluff goes wrong:(
He sacked over 1000 drs?ouch:((((
This is so wrong on many fronts.
Doctors should not even go on strike for this long.What happens to the patients?Nigerian health care service is atrocious on many fronts.Arggghhhh.....
What happened to negotiations etc etc?This high handed approach to professionals is really sad.I realise Fashola is their employer and if an employee says he does not like the salary his "oga" is paying him,he should either try negotiations and if it does not work,honourably quit rather than hold the employer to ransom.But sacking them outright?Fashola,noooooooooooo
To study medicine is not beans o.It is expensive and so tasking and demanding.And to receive peanuts as a salary is annoying.More so when some thieves as politicians steal so much.I understand the drs "agros",I really do.Only he who wears the shoe understands the pinch.We are human too and deserve our pay.
Please Fashola have a rethink o.Go back to the negotiation table.Wisdom must be applied here abeg.
Which way Nigeria,which way to go????
it has its pros and cons. but health is nt a sector to be toyed with. is this the best way. mediation is key.
The LASG claims not †̥ be able †̥ pay CONMESS but have employed new medical officers and Α̲̅я̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ paying them about 280,000 a month, Α̲̅я̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ even paying theem per hour at a much higher rate than conmess.who Α̲̅я̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ we kidding? Why didn't FG sack all govt workers when they went on minimum wage strike? Conmess is minimum wage for docs.even d smallest states pay even more for docs who see fewer patients than in lagos state where patient load is much and govt always employs fewer than necessary.putting docs on call everyday for months at a stretch and refuse †̥ pay call duty fees? Is this the NAZI administration?
Now you can see the kind of 'rulers' that run this country. Imagine. Fashola will want to be also seen as a leader? kmt.
Lagos cuts own nose to spite it's face and simply perceives it can just work into an abbatoir and get a human nose for replacement?
Was the State forced into the decisions and agreements it consented to back in 2009 with the now striking doctors?
In meeting this agreement and paying doctors the agreed amount, will it in anyway limit what Emperor glass eyed Tinubu gets monthly from Lagos revenue?
Somebody kindly tell Fashola to eat humble pie and not joke with the lives of Lagosians.
Certainly not the best solution coming from Fash
I guess fashola is very high on his drugs these days, sacking 1000 doctors and announcing non payment of minimum wage directed by fg, dis is serious, dat what he has to offer for second term. Hmmmm eko ti baje ooo.
dat not d best solution o brf cuting d head is not d solution to headace.am sure wen d rich politician are sick dey rush to abroad.na civilian dey sufer.wat dey ask for is noting to all wat d yeye leaders are using daily at abj oooooo.aftrall lagos get money.
Please let them sack those tanker drivers too. Abi u no get liver. Mumuness
Contri wey no dey value im pple
Government abandons its responsibilities then tries to put those doctors against the populace. Well sha, dem govt ppl no dey patronize these hospitals just like LASU na wetin make dem fit do as dem like
Stupid doctors, idiots! How much do the people that impacted, them with the knowledg earn?Everytime salary increase#nonsense!
Have they been attending to patients in critical condition while they were on strike? The blood of all the men, women and children that have died as a result of their greed inclined strike will be on their neck. Fashola, abeg sack every single one of them, they are nothing but killers, probably they must have been bribed by PDP to paid the Lagos State Government in bad light. Are they the only ones in Lagos State that are not well paid? What should the teachers do? When they know that the condition of service is not favorable, why did they applied for the job in the first place? Were they forced to work? If they cannot work under that condition, why don’t they resign and find better jobs elsewhere, why must they take up the slot and at the end allow innocent citizens to die in their dozens because of their own greed? Nigerians are something else.people are dying in hospitals due to one sickness/disease or the other the the doctors are striking on increment of their salary or whatever name it is called…what about their promise to preserve and save lives. Even if they want to protest,striking for such a long time is meaningless and useless especially as lives are involved and there was no guarantee that the Lagos State Government would listen to them….As for our government,my only comment is that they know better…if they could afford the request of the doctors,they should have done it. But then the Nigerian government is not always reliable anyway...NIGERIA is our motherland we should work towards improving it not pulling down the things that are already there
They should go to their villages and establish hospitals. They will make it. Why the rush to cities? I don't blame fashola. Population in lagos state alone is very alarming.
Sometimes I wonder what 2nd term has done t oFAshola's thinking. So he thinks employing young doctors with little or no experience on locum contracts of N7,000 for 4hrs is the way to replace experienced doctors that he has refused to pay what he agreed with them. Nigeria truly has a poverty of leadership at all levels and Lagos state is no different.
It is quite unfortunate that some pple dnt hve sense, so becos i'm a doctor, so I shld be paid rubbish, wht abt the amount of mny spent getting an education, abi do u guys think its easy to study medicine??? Then ur fake-ass gov. Decides to sack them, becos they stand for wht they believe in, only in naija can dis nonsense happen. Pple that voted u into power!!! Dis doctors hve families as well, they hve responsibilites, Fashola wit all the mny u collect frm taxes, u dnt wnt to pay ur doctors good wages??? I feel sorry for u. All dis politicians think they're mini-gods, Holy ghost fire pursue all of u.
That is d worst idea ever, i hope they dnt go n employ quacks just to prove a point oo, besides what happens if these ones go on strike, just employ another batch abi?? pfff~ abeg!
at this rate every unemployed medical graduate will get a job and lose it within a year.
i wish i know what the numeration is like before i could stick to any side.
Sometimes I wonder what 2nd term has done to Fashola's thinking. So he thinks employing young doctors with little or no experience on locum contracts of N7,000 for 4hrs is the way to replace experienced doctors that he has refused to pay what he agreed with them. Nigeria truly has a poverty of leadership at all levels and Lagos state is no different.
Fashola is just getting fucked since he resumed this 2nd term. I swear if Jimi Agbaje can come out under the umbrella of "feedeefee" I will vote for him walahi. He is just been controlled my so many idiots like Tinubu. Ermm, you need to see alimosho the largest LG in lagos, you will cry for them not to talk of ijegun. They are green snake under the green grass ojare
Those in support of d sack are ignorant fools. To increase dia salary is nt a big deal. Bcous jst graduatin 4rm d medical skul is nt an easy tin.(6 to 8 yrs) Talkless of surgeons. If u tink iz easy, go n read d course n come out wit ur MBBS certificate. I weep bitterly wen I c some politicianz dat didt even finish class six earnin more dan doctors. Infact d trut iz dat Nigeria needs to develop. If u doubt me go to united states n kno d highest paid professions.
This is not the best way but 9ja unions do not know or seem to understand negotiations. They always want things to go their own way regardless. Whilst not the best solution as this may end up costing the state depending on the contracts each doctor has, I am sure some would welcome the move.
Yea it about time, must everything be about money. What about satisfaction?
Way to go Gov Fashola! I understand someone wanting more pay but it's not every profession that can afford to go on strike, there's got to be another way to get their point accross. Did they even consider the patients b4 they went striking, there's always someone in need of medical help. Biko, for some professions u have to really b in it for what u do, in this case helping people. I know it's tough but that's how the cookie crumbles.
Fashola is turning out to be one of the worst governors in Nigeria. Lekki Toll, then this?
I am highly disappointed at the uunreasonable action that Fashola is taking and am sure it is because he does not need a second term and for those who know the worth of doctors the person you should blame for killing your family members is Fashola otherwise how do you explain that he agreed to upgrading salaries of the doctors and instead bribes a few and expect others to keep quiet,it is high time we come out to support the doctors.Let them go to egypt & employ killer doctors again.
O please people, give this "Hippocratic oath thing" a break.Until you actually read what it is please stop using it as a weapon to attack doctors.
Recruiting new doctors is the wrong way to go... the government is putting people's life in grave danger.
Is there any way in the world that someone can voice their opinion in LIB without being cursed? Please try and live with peace with others and stop insulting people's generation! Peace and Love
d various strikes by tanker drivers in this nation has never been for more than 3 days. doctors are not working,d govt issues sack letters after 2weeks. hmm,is this what they campaigned to do to d people. d souls of the poor in this naija should fight these thieves in power.
THIS IS SO WRONG ON ALL LEVELS. YOU PEOPLE SUPPORTING THE SACK, WILL YOU ALLOW THEIR NEWLY EMPLOYED NYSC DOCTORS TO DELIVER YOUR RELATIVES OF A BABY? WILL FASHOLA ALLOW A 'BABY' DOCTOR TREAT HIS WIFE?
I DONT SUPPORT THIS AT ALL! DOCTORS ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND HAVE NEEDS JUST LIKE EVERYONE OF US. IF FASHOLA CAN ALLOCATE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS FOR THEIR CARNIVALS (EYO AND CO), LETS NOT FORGET TINUBU'S BDAY PARTY.... WHY CANT THEY PAY THESE GUYS. WHY AGREE TO PAY THEM SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND UP TILL NOW, HE HASNT DONE SO...
THESE ARE NOT JUST DOCTORS, THEY ARE 'EXPERIENCED' DOCTORS. NOTE, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. I WONT WANT TO MEET AN NYSC DOCTOR THAT WOULD HAVE TO CONSULT GOOGLE WITH MY SYMPTOMS BEFORE HE/SHE HAS AN IDEA OF WHATS WRONG WITH ME.
THIS IS SO WRONG!!! NO WONDER THE BEST NIGERIAN DOCTORS ON THE PLANET ARE ABROAD...
Fashola, you can do better than this. This is not well thought out. You don't sack striking doctors. You work with them to meet a common ground that will eventually benefit them and their patients.
These Doctors go out of their way all the time especially in a country where proper medical equipments is lacking and the healthcare system is a failed one. Give these doctors what they are asking for, it's not too much compared to what the thieves in the government ask for.
This is not a solution o, how good are the new one's? With the old ones self people are still dying and they are supposed to be "the best" abeg o, they sgould re-think am.
this bad move on fashola's side, i thought he had more brain. Lagos can definitely afford to pay the doctors more, but this confirms how corrupt the whole government is. How can he let go of seasoned doctors, for new ones,who knows nothing abt that hospital and its patients.
Ppl go die eh. Cos if he sacked consultants and try to replace them wit moi moi doctors looking for money... Lagos state I pity u o.
Good for them! RUbbish!!
I see this as a welcomed development....stupid doctors...its the head of people that died as a result of their greed that affected them....all nigerian doctors know now is money money money....saving lives has become a JOB for them. I know of soooooo many really brilliant docs who have concluded their youth service, and after waiting for sometime @ home for jobs, took up employment with private hospitals that pay them no more than 90k....and they gladly accepted cos it beats sitting on their ass all day @ home. All the people who have commented so far in favor of these greedy docs, please tell me; was their pay below 90k? My friends have gladly applied to take their place when the opportunity comes. I know there are more out there. The person that said they can't find 1000 docs...all I have to say to you is that....... E GO SHOCK U!
Dont these fools get it?People are dying everyday cos of these greedy nuisances who took an oath to save lives!If i had my way they should be barred from ever practising medicine again.You dont want to know what they are paid now,its more than most people get in a year¬mschew!!!!!!!!
fASHOLA just made a big mistake,d devil u know is beta dan d unknown angel.doctors hav every right 2 fight 4 deir sake.its d government both state nd fg dat r 2 blame.it will reoccur with ds new drs.linda dats a pic of luth and its a fg parastatal
Sometimes i wonder who advices our gov't official, then i remember that some of the politicians in gov't didnot even graduate from secondary sch!!!
My point is what kindof stupid move is that!!!!!
I have been following this doctors story for a while. The state govt signed an agreement since 2009 and they refused to implement it and here we are castigating the doctor.
Their contemporaries that work in other state (That do not work as much as they do) earns more than ALL LAGOS DOCTORS!!!!
Sometimes i wonder if Nigeria (LAGOS precisely)is still not ruled by the MILLITARY!!!!
Fashola just keep lording himself over citizens.
1st it was the toll gate, now the doctor. it will soon be the whole state.
But really, i dont blame them i blame the citizens that dont know their rights.
Na wa o!!...if Accident and Emergency also went on strike that might seem unethical..people dying needlessly..however knowing 9ja this might be the only way for the Govt to take their demands serious..
BRF a bit authoritarian isn't it??..it's okay tho to tax people to the max for your Godfather..but reluctant to raise what Doctors are paid!!..
Yeah i really can see Chidi's wife rushing back to this mess!!..call this progress??..
THIS FASHOLA I KNOW BLAME U O BECOS IF U GET ONLY SMALL HEADACHE U GO RUN GO UK OR US GO TREAT URSELF,PLS ANSWER ALL THIS DOCTORS THEY DESEVE THE BEST.AND TO ALL THIS NEW DOCTORS I PITY U GUYS O COS NA THE SAME CANE FASHOLA GO USE FLOG UNA.
Can you imagine???
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we naija should knw our right, if possible we should stop voting this ppl for second time, look at wht Fashola deed and to him, he think is the best, pay them with the money that is not ur own, u did not do it instead u sack them, i want ppl to call u good man, in the first place u are aware of the strike, or u were not told, u increase vehicle particulars from 1500 to 2100 and u cannot pay the people that are working for u, now, can u tell us how many people u employ since u enter office as governor? tell Nigerians to hear, if u pppl dey do something mak una dey thinking am ohh, i no good ohhh even (Satan) self no go support u 4 this one ohh
hope they will pay d new ones
None of them earn 120K. The least paid is an house officer who is a trainee and earns about 170K. They should go and rest. Fashola way to go!
This is not the solution. There is a Yoruba adage that says cutting off the head is not the solution to a headache. I pity the poor ppl that will suffer. Wealthy ppl don't go to govt hospitals anyway. The poor man is at the receiving end yet again.
The solution is to give them what they DESERVE not lay them off...haba Fashola doesn't use health centres o, his mates are treated abroad...
if the money is not enough for u resign!!! some graduates are riding okada and keke. if u studied medicine so what?! when u go strike who suffers? is it fashola or other big politicians, they have money to fly abroad but poor citizens cant afford it.
Yes, of course it's the right thing. Their medical vow is to first and foremost save lives. Besides there are people who would appreciate the chance to work at all instead of asking for more. Good riddance.
Sacking them isn't the proper approach to this even though the doctors were wrong to have gone on strike in the 1st place. The salary situation should be reviewed. If the Doctors want an increase,then let them have it(@ least 50% of the proportion they're asking for). Its obvious that in nigeria huge sum of money kips going into the wrong places.
My opinion: I ask that this matter be reviewed and the Doctors given a linient penalty.
thats a stupid move the government did.
all this people talkin rubbish that why did gov sack the doctors if uve lose one of ur family to this strike then u will all understand.
all this people talkin rubbish that why did gov sack the doctors if uve lose one of ur family to this strike then u will all understand.
Set up privately as a Consultant..Well America would gladly take them in..and who's loss is that..the average 9ja man/woman again!!
@Atolabale..you forgot to mention the wastage tho and the excessive corruption by the Politicians..now what crime is worse??..Doctors on strike for being paid pittance or Politicians siphoning Billions??..
This is the first time i heard about how much Doctors are paid..jeez 90-100k??..and also the no of young unemployed Doctors..we in serious trouble!!
First you increase Lasu fees by 1000 %,place Toll gates on jakande roads,sack 1000 doctors over agreements made in 2009,you pay a freaking judge 500k a month,and u pay a cosultant who went to med skl for 7years,anoda 8 years to become a consultant who wud train 300 students and 100 doctors and still attend to patients 11 hours a day and perform surgery 3 times a week a paltry 300k,and we complain of brain drain,never would I settle for peanuts again when I know my worth,councillor 500k a month,house of assembly all endowments quaterly are even more stependous,nigerians when would u learn
If e dey pain Ʋ say doctors earn too much,go back †̥ school and study medicine,idiot! Do Ʋ work 24hrs, 7days a week? Delivering babies,saving lives,certifying people dead,cutting people open? Sacrificing ur family and relationships? If e too pain Ʋ go back †̥ school! Ode ni! Thunder fire ur mouth!
Have you people ever wondered d emolument of a magistrate,compare it to senior registrar's emolument,talk less of a consultant,doctors aluta continua
QF
Fashola pls av a retink, i do agree ds doctors shud av taken oda stps besides strikin cos a lot of lives are lost during their absence...but at d same tym i do undastnd their plyt, ds is naija where nobody listens 2u except u go gaga...abegi d gov shud jst pay dm wat their askin for aftarall there's moni in naija we jst dnt use it 4d ryt course
Very demonic government.
All you plebs who have not run a business before are here talking rubbish and abusing Fashola.the Doctors are justblackmailing government and nothing else.He should call their bluff and sack the bloody fools.first of all chase all the araokos in the service and employ new ones on contract pls
Sacking them is not the best..the cycle continues,when the news ones are recruited they are treated very wel soon the story will unfold again
i hope all of you supporting fashola know that it is your friends,relatives and loved ones who are going to die as a result of this protracted crisis...fashola has just suceeded in complicating a very simple issue and you are applauding him,when these new half baked inexperienced and very green new docotrs kill your family,dont disturb us with protest letter o!pls and pls,just go complain to fashola in alausa.fashola own family can afford the best of private care both at home and abroad,at the end of the day,after this braggadocio,na the same doctors go still go back to work in those hospitals,but lots of pple would have died by then,truth be told,what fashola did is plain stupid!
If i was still in dat country I would be in banking or oil/gas industry. No need bearing a title when poverty continues to stare u in d face
I hope oju ina guys can churn out fake certificates as fast as possible, at least some area boys will be gainfully enplyed inthe hispitals. Anybody can so d work of doctors jare, remember catch me if u can?
But other states have been paying drs CONMESS nau. How can Lagos state be exempted. Won't even dignify these fools talking rubbish with an answer. They are totally ignorant and will reemain so
Please tell these ignorant fools!
Everytime? You must live in a cave or something! Get ur facts straight! Fool!
this is really a useless decision,it will not achieve anything....my advise to lagosian carry your yansh go private hosptal go collect injection when sick oooo,if this new dokitor not doctors go treat you.....a word is enough for d......
Who is this psycho, Dube Emeka! does satisfaction put food on ur table, does it send ur children to sch? better talk sensible things here...
Its not nice dey are being sacked but at d same tym, patients are dying cos of lack of attention, my fwends mum is on admission cos she has stroke, and Linda its not a nice sight
the level of ignorance on this page is on a high, ranging from those talking about an oath whose content they know nothing about to that one saying 90k is enuf as a pay check for her so-called Dr friends... may God have mercy on you pple
all of u that are in support, go to private hospitals and spend all ur salary there in one night maybe thats when u wld understand these Drs plight! their families suffer cos they try to save the lives of urs and u talk ill of them *pity*
ALL YOU MONKEYS IN SUPPORT OF THESE BASTARD DOCTORS, HAVE PROBABLY NEVER BEEN TO THE GOVERNMENT HOSPITALS IN LAGOS. THOSE GREEDY ANIMALS ARE HARDLY AT THEIR DUTY POST IN TIME. SOME COME TO WORK BY PAST EVELEN. CAN THEY TRY SUCH RUBBISH UNDER PRIVATE SETTINGS? MY DAD USED TO GO FOR WEEKLY CHECK UP IN LASUTH....THE DOCTOR HANDLING HIS CASE NEVER CAME TO WORK TILL IT WAS ELEVEN THIRTY......SOME TIMES WHEN I GO WITH HIM, I GET PISSED AT THEIR LEVEL OF NEGLIGENCE......ON ONE OF SUCH VISITS, FASHOLA HIMSELF VISITED THE HOSPITAL, AND A LOT OF THEM WERE NOT ON SEAT. HE GAVE A WARNING TO BE DELIVERED TO THOSE ABSENT, AND BY THE FOLLOWING WEEK, WHEN WE GOT THERE, THEY WERE ALL ON SEAT BY 8. FUCKING RETARDED PRETENDERS. THIS SERVES THEM RIGHT, BECAUSE NOBODY FORCED THE JOB ON THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND IN MY OPINION, THEY ARE TOO NEGLIGENT TO DEMAND SUCH RAISE.
Atobatele, I think you are very myopic to apportion blame to PDP. This is way beyond political rivalry. Why should the condition of service be unfavourable to public servants in Lagos state, being that Lagos state is one of the states with the highest tax revenue. These funds should be put into such sectors to create a more conducive working environment.
You go further to say they should resign and find better jobs, WHERE????? How many more jobs has Lagos state government provided for the health sector??????
This could all have been avoided if the Lagos state government kept to their promise made in 2009. If they can afford to pay new doctors, why not stick to the 2009 agreement and save everyone the embarrassment.
Na wah for lagos people o. All you hypocrites, do you guys know how long fashola has been begging them to take the raise he was offering? Their rigid greed has paid off in a wrong way. The 120k they receive is for starters......as they grow, some are paid up to 500k...do you guys have any idea how much such starters are paid in private hospitals? Go and research before you make noise. The jobs in nigeria no be pure water o.....hold on to the one you have till God decide to save us. I know that they were not forced on the job, if they felt cheated, why not resign or take what he was offering? It serves them right. The lives that were lost as a result of this their foolish beef with the government cannot be brought back. Kudos Mr. Fash.
Atobatele, I think you are very myopic to apportion blame to PDP. This is way beyond political rivalry. Why should the condition of service be unfavourable to public servants in Lagos state, being that Lagos state is one of the states with the highest tax revenue. These funds should be put into such sectors to create a more conducive working environment.
You go further to say they should resign and find better jobs, WHERE????? How many more jobs has Lagos state government provided for the health sector??????
This could all have been avoided if the Lagos state government kept to their promise made in 2009. If they can afford to pay new doctors, why not stick to the 2009 agreement and save everyone the embarrassment.
No1 shld come here claiming doctors are trying by doing this and that, thats absolute rubbish. Before you decided to become a doctor you knew all that. And any1 in their clear senses knows that doctors in naij dont make good money except its their own hospital. It is so wrong for you to decide to let pple die in the name of money. Let me tell you, their are some doctors in this world dat give more than they take so biko make i hear word.
Now i dont thing sacking them is the best solution but a strike over two weeks, nna if na me sef i go hire new staff abi i wan make my citizens die. Even the existing doctors still dont do their best. You see them answering calls while in surgery or while a patient is in front of them, its all so annoying. You have to respect yourself b4 anoda can.
Abegi, employ new pple if it has gotten to a 2weeks strike and train the shit out of them.
As far as I am concerned Fashola is taking all the right decisions here. As for all you ignorant retards that think lag is so ric cos of all the taxes, have you considered that all ur companies dont pay the original tax + Lagos state is broke from all the projects its handling.
You think its beans to do projects. Wake up u all. These doctors just want to live like oil workers or their counterparts in the western country and trust me there is nothing wrong with that but if you dream such dream then lets see it in how you work.
Keeping patients waiting, prescribing the wrong medication and carelessly killing my friends daughter in that stupid lagos state hospital, surely shows you guys dont deserve a raise.
Fix yourself up then even the people will support you.
Linda, this picture is from LUTH (Lagos University Teaching Hospital). Not LASUTH (Lagos state University Teaching Hospital). They are two different hospitals mbok!
This is absolutely wrong and it's not the solution.So if teachers or nurses go on strike d next thing is to scak them and recruit new ones to replace dem.Wat goes arround comes arround.It's d docs turn now and if he succeeds then he'll continue to intimidate other professionals.And i think d people dat voted them into office r to b blamed cos dey saw d handwritting on d wall buh still went ahead to vote for them cos stupid ankara and 500naira.The docs were on strike for monthhs in 2010 and d govt didn't attend to them until it was time for election when dey signed an agreement to pay last year which dey never did.U know wat dey told the docs when dey went for meeting with them,dey said there's no election yet so dey can go to hell.Why wont dey go on strike after hearing such a statement.And
Studing medicine is an opportunity nt a right,dnt thnk bcos u a dr and hospitl belngs u or u re important than any persn u c in hospitl, u drs are nt d only persn dat went skul,u want a salary increase and stil want others 2 b recievn a peanut.
Even if the most developed countries, health care is not free, it is in fact the opposite! In the UK, tax payers are paying for health care, same as in Canada. In the US, if you don't have health insurance you are (almost) on your own if you need to manage an expensive surgery or chronic condition. Physicians should not be made to pay for the incompetency of the payer - government or private. All these people insulting doctors, my heart bleeds because you are just being ignorant and hurtful. I would like someone to tell me one forward-moving country where the physician is unpaid or underpaid... Stop all this ignorant hippocrates oath talk and read it up before you speak. You can find it here:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/hippocratic-oath-today.html#modern
I swore it and nothing says there that i should be denied of my rights to earn a living that is commensurate with the rigorous training i received and the intricacy of the services i am called to deliver. The practice of Medicine in Nigeria has a long way to go i admit but please please stop thinking that the doctor was placed on this earth to give you free health care, it is not done anywhere!
I am so angry, i could burst a vessel :X
I worked in Luth and many times, my colleagues and I had to give patients or their families the money needed to buy the things we recommended. How long are we going to do that for eh, Nigeria???? How long, somebody tell me??? And people who says Drs are heartless and blah blah, you have no idea, absolutely none. In Nigeria, Drs have had to improvise more than anywhere you could dream of. Surgeries have been done with rechargeable lamps as the only source of light because PHCN came and say hello. Should we buy generators too? I admit again that we have a long way to go in terms of training and patient relations, but it is mostly a vicious cycle repeating itself that we need to break.
Apart from striking for salary raises, Drs need to strike so that the government can improve the deplorable conditions in which we work, and the totally sub-standard training we receive in medical school.
I am so glad i am not practising medicine in Nigeria because it was a very depressing and frustrating environment to be in.
I am still so very angry and almost bursting a vessel :X
abeggggi, make una no talk that 7yrs in med skul one....lawyers do 7yrs(university plus lawschool and service) and if u get a lawfirm to pay you 30g take it. If u get 80g jump at it and do thanksgiving...if you now get over 100g roll on the floor...so pls aint they both professionals, do u see them striking...mscheeew. When i was serving sef, most of the doctors on camp wanted to relocate ,i heard comments like ''i was earning 120g during my housemanship wettin be dis kind pay, abeg im redeploying to lagos''....Even as corpers they earned far more especially if they are posted to federal hospitals (e.g army ).Them no get 2 heads even if they are valuable to us.
@ Anonymous 10:55, just to educate you on the way a teaching hospital runs. Doctors do overnight calls and morning ward rounds , if you check properly the dr you have been waiting for is probably in the hospital doing a ward round, attending to a complicated case or giving medical students tutorials. If you are an emergency, there are doctors in the emergency section that will attend to you.
LINDA THIS IS FOR YOU. YOU SHOULD NOTALLOW AND POST COMMENTS WHERE ABUSIVE LANGUAGE IS USED. THIS IS YOUR BLOG, AND YOU SHOULD MODERATE. THERE SHOULD BE SOME AMOUNT OF DECENCY. THE FACT THAT A PERSON DOES NOT AGREE WITH SOMEONE ELSE'S COMMENT DOESNT MEAN THEY SHOULD CALL THEM 'RETARDS' OR 'IDIOTS'. LINDA THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT. ITS GETTING TOO MUCH, AND I WOULD EXPECT THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND NOT JUST FOR POPULARITY OF YOUR BLOG
The Govt has spoken you stupid lazy doctors have invaded this site to justify your incompetence.instead of you cretins to go and start your d&c clinics you are busy being anony and abusing Fashola abi? God punish all of you.afterall some of you live in Ikoyi and Ikeja GRA free of charge.start packing reality will hit you when you get to Akute or Ajamgbadi hahahahaha
The doctors dat were sacked weren't they young at sm point?
If any of you ever lost a loved one to these Striking Doctors, you wont be supporting them.
A very silly argument to say spending so much in school means they deserve outrageous fees from a struggling state all their lives. the govt had appealed to them to be patient for a while but.. you'll need to go to these govt. hospitals and see how death is manufactured in the absense of these doctors.
continue commenting here.this is why doctors went to saudi the last time and why seasoned doctors are reluctant to come back home.this is why our health sector is still backward. continue commenting, tomorrow they will sack health care workers as they please whenever they want,resulting in more dead people due to lack of expertise and reeling out of half-baked medical students.continue commenting while your own generation sinks into oblivion...continue commenting.
SAD' is the word,everybody needs a doctor u know.the way the doctors n nigeria are treated is incoparable to anywhere in the world.and. All these myopic dumbs. Talkn about not been at thier duty post dont have the slightest idea of cases been attended too n federal/state hospitals.Most people bring thier relatives after consulting several private hospitals.lets say the general hospital is a dumping ground.this is the dumbest decision ever fashola!
@aacy-blog: ur analysis is wrong. U ® talking abt doctors on fed govt payroll(fed med centres, fed uni teaching hosps)...
And that is †ђξ crux of their agitation, they shd be paid †ђξ same salary, other states hav implemented î†...
Fashola is being a dictator abt this...can he do their work?
By d way, I A̶̲̥̅♏ №t a doctor, I just happened to be involved somehow on d govt end
You have 'plenty' sense...cos î†'s d citizenry that'l suffer..is î† †ђξ politician that go abroad for medical care that î† will affect?
Instead of them to show solidarity, they're saying Fashola has done well!!
Shei, they have kuku scrapped public healthcare in Lagos stylishly...go to private clinic and pay for healthcare n you'l know d diff...
So u support govt shortchanging them...na wa sha
Nigerians are just ignorant...my hubby is a doctor and I understand exactly wђã†̥ you are saying..even †ђξ so-called CONMESS...how much is î†? Considering wђã†̥ they go thru?
And then †ђξ same govt will cry abt brain drain....why wouldn't one go to where he/she is appreciated with G̶̲̥̅Ơ̴̴̴̴͡.̮Ơ̴̴̴͡D̶̲̥̅ pay...smh
He would rather pay Medical officers than specialist-in-training and specialists?
He has just displayed an uncanny level of ignorance from someone so educated...
Anyway, I D̶̲̥̅̊Õ̳͡ñ† blame him, î†'s †ђξ lawyer's mentality...that treatment they give to †ђξ juniors at d bar, that's wђã†̥ he wants to extend to you people...he thinks everyone is like us lawyers who have been taking bs for years...
I hope nobody acts desperate and applies..
@poster..when last did you crawl out from under that rock?...
This is Lagos state №t federal govt so get ur facts straight
See fool! You think govt knows beta....why did they enter into †ђξ agreement in †ђξ first place...î† is №t an inherited agreement from another govt but one he entered into himself...
He knows better abi? He knows better to fund 1billion naira party for Tinubu but can't pay people rendering essential service...
Afterall, he doesn't use †ђξ service, neither does his family, so why should he bother...
And for your info, critical care is always available, and emergency services too so D̶̲̥̅̊Õ̳͡ñ† run your mouth...
You are siding with an irresponsible, unresponsive government and you are fanning yourself...shame on you!!
You make sense die!
Emeka, dont let mε say I'm disppointed in you cos of this staement o, cos I know you and you are generally more sensible than this rubbish you just spewed...
Do u know that an average Nigerian doctor spends some of his salary on his patients many times in a month just to make sure he can tell himself that he did †ђξ best they can?
A country where healthcare is cash-rolled, NHIS is №t working, sometimes you have to find someone to help donate blood, contribute money to buy medication, pay for test results, buy even gloves and cotton wool cos †ђξ hospital doesn't have....
Pls try and research a bit on †ђξ state of healthcare in Nigeria...do you think î† is for nothing that they go abroad? Ά is because they know they've messed things up here
God bless you, even with your capslock...
They will continue to move abroad..who doesn't like to feel G̶̲̥̅Ơ̴̴̴̴͡.̮Ơ̴̴̴͡D̶̲̥̅ abt his work? How much does Fashola's govt waste on useless PAs and SAs and SA to †ђξ SA etc....God will judge him!
Your friends must be dullards who couldn't pass primaries to start residency...
And Y̶̲̥̅̊êåh, they ® only going to be employed as MOs....so †ђξ state govt stil wins...
And also, keep listening for †ђξ numbers of mortality that happen in Lagos state in †ђξ next few months...
This is tyranny, pure and simple!
I D̶̲̥̅̊Õ̳͡ñ† want to abuse you.î†'s obvious that you are ignorant
You are a fool that understands nothing..
You father has an appointment on a particular day, first off, note that this is a teaching hospital, they have chart reviews, bedside teachings, ward rounds and so many other engagements depending on †ђξ dept..
On a particular morning depending on wђã†̥ is slated for that day, a doctor is normally at work by 8 (†ђξ person that was on call will just bath and dress in †ђξ call room and continue †ђξ day, no going home), î†'s î†'s a PG seminar or chart review or brain cut-up etc that will take to like 10am.. Before they head to †ђξ clinics
Sometimes they'l do ward rounds first depending on d day...
So ur father going early is to meet †ђξ nurses, get his card out on time since î† is going to be first come, first serve, do †ђξ necessary blood and urine test-depending on †ђξ clinc (which results will comeout for †ђξ doc to use in evaluation
And then get his health talf from †ђξ public health nurses..
This must all take place before he is seen, î† is part of †ђξ healthcare process..so becos u D̶̲̥̅̊Õ̳͡ñ† see †ђξ docs in clinic at 8 doesn't mean they ® №t at work...
Those doctors and their leaders are simply wicked and heartless. The money they are fighting for should be more important than their profession and compassion for human that should have formed a major ingredient of their service. After going on strike for seven months, they came, collected their money and embarked on another strike. They are definitely playing gods. They should be shown that nobody is indispensable. This is a very serious matter. The nature of their job is humanitarian. I am sure that the Government is paying their salaries on monthly basis but now talking about the benefits, can they put themselves in the position of those that are on the sick beds? God made them to be doctors for the purpose of taking care of those that are sick. Even if government don’t pay them money, for sometimes they don’t have to turn down their services for the sake of the sick ones. These guys don’t even go to work everyday like other workers. Gone are the days when people would study medicine in order to save lives. Now, all we have are doctors who went into that profession for money. They get paid huge amounts of money when compared to other civil servants and their counterparts in other states and yet they ask for more money. What type of doctor watches on as the lives of his or her patients deplete just because of money? There are so many unemployed people in the country who will grasp at the opportunity these doctors had. Left to me, they were just being greedy and ungrateful to God for blessing them with a job that pays well. While some people in the same country seek jobs just to feed themselves, you lot seek increment in your already fat salaries. These doctors have lost the ethics of their profession and are just plain greedy. Honestly, this is definitely not a cheering news. When two elephant fight, only the grasses suffers. In as much that i will not encourage mass sack of experience and highly sensitive professionals like this, i must mention clearly that the spate of strike by this Doctors and other profession in Nigeria is just way too insensitive. More so, i have never seen this professionals like in Ghana going on strike solely for inadequate facility or condition of service rather than the selfish call for pay rise all the time. This brings us to the issue of true federalism. How can a state doctor wants to be paid same salary as a FG doctor or a local government doctor when income are not the same. The FG can’t keep negotiating salaries for state and local government. The principle of life itself do not agree that we all get same wages for same kind of Job. Call for my head again but av pour out my mind. Shikena
Dumb! Dumb! Dumbest decision ever! Tho I must say, †ђξ Fashola of these days is a totally different person from †ђξ one we used to applaud...
He wants to use †ђξ hand he used to treat his 'new wigs'....
This decision will kill even more people....you guys supporting him, you better start saving for Lagoon, st Nicholas etc,
Cos if he is employing MOs to treat you people, I pirry you...unfortunately, his family get †ђξ best outta d country where people pay their doctors G̶̲̥̅Ơ̴̴̴̴͡.̮Ơ̴̴̴͡D̶̲̥̅ money and hopsital have †ђξ best facilities....
When †ђξ just-out-of-nysc doctors treat your family, D̶̲̥̅ont panic, u hear, remember that you loved wђã†̥ Fashola did...
Smh..Nigerians, we ® our own worst enemies...and Fashola is a poor excuse of a leader, his true colours are showing...
This is like sacking a Supreme Court Judge and employing a new wig and believeing that shebi, they both went to law school, read d same books so †ђξ new wig wil do well.....ridiculous much?
nobody is irreplaceable in this world...nobody
This Atobatele na olodo ooooo.So you copy and paste what someone else has commented in a newspaper while trying to paint yourself as intelligent?Shame pn you.Go back to your slate and chalk,idiot.
Now to the issue at hand,I really pity Nigerians oooo.Kai.We have been so submerged that we fail to see our rights any longer.Now let me ask this :if Fasola were sick would he stay and receive treatment from the new drs he wants to employ or go to Germany,India etc etc as his rogue counterparts?If you can answer that question honestly then you are partly on your way to redemption.
I pity Nigerians.Get ready for more deaths o.Employing tadpoles to replace full grown frogs.lollllllllll
I thank God I and my friends saw the light years ago and relocated.Who wants to be treated as trash in that God forsaken country?
@Atobatele.u are totally uninformed.u must not comment on everyth u see esp if u dnt have the relevant info.bla bla bla and nt making sense.mtchewwwwww
it is better....dey re wicked becos dey re on strike a man lost his life yesterday....dey so wicked..im glad dey sacked dem....
I'm a medical student and i don't see the sense in doctors striking. Why make the innocent masses suffer for your problem with the government? Quite unfair and silly. There are other ways to make your point instead of endangering people's lives. On the bright side, young doctors looking to work in public hospitals can finally get employed, and the sacked ones can enjoy the vacation they've been seeking.
Its almost as if ppl mistake d vow of celibacy for d hippocratic oath. A reverend father doesn't have a wife and children to take care of. The fact that you're a doctor doesn't mean u are a demi-god and should close ur mouth when u are suffering while others (doctors like urself in other states) are faring better. A strike may or may nt have been d best option bt it seems like d only language our leaders understand. Don't forget that Lagos State Govt AGREED to this new salary scale. So why don't u pay up? It's been almost 3 yrs for cryin out loud. I doubt if any other union wud show patience for that long.
To those saying to hell with them remember when u point an accusing finger 3 are pointed right back at u. You cannot buy experience. I pray this decision doesn't come back to haunt u all..
Doctors are not gods they have human needs and feelings like d rest of us. I'm convinced it would have been easier to implement d new salary scale than to take this drastic decision. Fashola pls rethink.
Mr lawyer, sharrap there jor. I'm also a lawyer and I A̶̲̥̅♏ sensible enough to know that medicine does №t compare to law in terms of service...
Have u ever heard in a crowded hall where someone scream 'help, lawyer needed right now, pls help, someone dying here????!!!!'....that should tell you something..you know as well as I do that no matter wђã†̥ î† is you can always take a date, so stop beefing..hehehe...
Ά's called 'essential life-saving service'
Linda should also №t post comments where people use capslock...†ђξ internet has been around long enough for us all to learn its etiquette by now.
Oh, your state is struggling...eh yah!!!! How much does †ђξ special assistant to †ђξ special adviser to †ђξ commisioner take home? And for doing wђã†̥? Just asking...
Remember that conviction when you are taking your relative there for treatment...just remember..
And you must be an std infected CUNT......these friends I'm talking about, all had their youth service in the northern parts of Nigeria. Trust me, the kind of ailment in those parts, doctors in lagos have not seen 1/10 of them. These friends of mine you called dullards, carried out various operations successfully while still in service and the so called Specialists looked on like amateurs. So shut down your gutter of a brain for a week cos it needs total overhauling by my friends. Drop your number and you will be contacted.
Where most of the stupid old cargo doctors doing any work before? They get to work late, and don't stay long in the office. They were really worthless. most of them have thrown away their core medical values in pursuit of money like politicians. Go to lasuth and ask for a consultant...one rich old hulk of a woman called Mama Ajao. She resumes duty by 10: 55 and attends to a maximum of 10 people out of over 100.....of what use is she? Nonsense. Most of you defending these doctors who have become animals, probably don't use the hospitals.
Ogbeni! Carry your monkey ass to the zoo joor. Fool. We sit outside and watch them drive in thru the gate by past eleven. So don't give me that BS of 'they were busy with other things' joor. Yeye get body odor.
Shut up there! Abi were they in your house doing rounds the day Fashola came unexpectedly and met their absence? Go and educate your monkey doctors to treat their patients with respect and do the actual work required of them, then the public can back up their quest for a raise. For now, they are still the same irresponsible douchebags who take themselves too seriously.......BTW....ensure you chew on a razor blade while administering the 'education' to them negligent doctors.....................mmmmmmsssssscccccchhhhhhheeeeeeewwwwwww!
Thank you o jare Mr. Dosunmu! They think they are irreplaceable. Nonsense.....even with the so-called specialists, majority of cases are being referred by these specialists, to India like there's a kill and divide arrangement between them. Of what use are they, when people still get referred over a minor case? in M̶̲̥̅γ̲̣̣̥ candid opinion, they don't deserve the raise they seek. some dim Wits here are comparing their pay to that of doctors on the international scene...M̶̲̥̅γ̲̣̣̥ question.....DO THEY WORK AS EFFECTIVE AND HARD AS THOSE ON THE INTERNATIONAL SCENE? HOW MANY MAJOR OPERATIONS HAVE THEY DONE BY THEMSELVES? By major, I don't mean appendicitis or C Section o.
much as i don't subscribe to drs been sacked i think they are way way too greedy,if Ben Carson was like this he wouldn't have gotten to where he is today.as a working graduate you don't compare yourself with others in different outfits cos you might be heading for suicide,abi banker go compare him self with oil worker,definitely not.even some of these so called drs have their own private practice where they pay the green horns peanuts and they are expected to work same hours.Drs in public service i must say are acting inhuman,where theirs is a humanitarian service.am sure they never expected this from Fashola,and as for those who are calling others greens,you where once green,you didn't get experience from home!
as for those who don't know on good authority,new intake including housemanship in public practice get,120k and above while in the private practice it's a 100k,that is why they can't go to private hospitals to work.but i can't tell of the big names like st.nicos,EKO,
NK blast.
if you weep that drs are ill treated what about teachers?who do all the props just to get the drs started.no teacher...........no dr.smh
Going by your 'solution' fashola's actions are in order cos those lagos doctors Deserve To Be Sacked! Lazy lot seeking higher pay...when most of them are being paid higher than their counterparts in the private sector.
Thank you for this! I hope you monkeys in lab coats that have invaded LIB with your banana plea can read this without your specs of greed.
I am a medical student in sagamu and was shocked when i saw the
'doctors mass sack' news on NTA yesterday.
This was the same yesterday that we joined our senior
colleagues/resident doctors on a street protest against the rampant
kidnapping of doctors in Ogun state.
Yes! Another doctor (the fourth now in Ikenne/Sagamu axis) has being
kidnapped. She is a consultant and married to a doctor. The ransome is
N100million. Nigerians no longer value doctors!
Many on this thread/in Lagos state don't know what the warning strike
was called for. It is for 3 issues mainly:
1) The LASG should abide by its agreement signed last year on paying
the full (100%) CONMESS, the Consolidated Medical workers Salary
Scale, to all doctors in its employ.
2) The excessive taxation targetted at doctors since it raised their
pay should reviewed. (This is also applicable to other ACN states like
ours, who though pay CONMESS, now tax doctors heavily.)
3) Houseofficers' teaching allowance should be paid. Housemanship is a
form of learning period when the 'houseboy'/houseofficer learns a lot
of practical skills but works himself almost to death (some
houseofficers hav actualy died of exhaustion in LASUTH, and many of us dread/avoid 'Ikeja' bcos of d excessive workload).
But really, should we keep training doctors only for them to relocate to treat Americans, Britons, Arabians & Australians because those are the
people who truly apreciate their services? Should a LG Chairman or
Senator earn more than a professor of Neurosurgery? When will
Nigerians start to value their lives enough to demand from the govt their 'rightful' due?
Fellow 'Lindaikejians', no amount is too much to pay the people who
ensure that human lives are saved...ensuring you and your family live in
good health. Yet, all they are asking for is CONMESS.
Yes! CONMESS IS NOT TOO HIGH THAT EVERY GOVT IN NIG CAN'T AND SHOULDN'T PAY.
N.B: Pls help us raise the publicity against kidnapping of doctors in Ogun State. Thank u so much.
Linda that picture is kinda misleading o. shey u know dat picture is LUTH and its LASUTH doctors that went on strike its kinda misleading. i dnt know o am jst sayn
its about time we all left this darn country. Talk about taking the piss!
How much really is this conmess! I work 70hr weeks n im free only one weekend a month and what do i have to show for it.. Absolutely nothing!!
And they want me to show empathy.. Humanitarian job my foot!!
Lets see how brave he is when he throws an embolus or bursts a vessel.
Im leaving this country and never coming back!!
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