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Saturday, 24 May 2014

We are not ashamed to be called the church of the rich – Oyedepo

The Founder of Living Faith Church aka Winners Chapel, Bishop David Oyedepo, in an interview with Saturday Punch said the reason there are so many rich people in 33 year old church is because they know better than others and understand the importance of tithe (Let's not start with this tithe talk abeg, if I start now, we will start fighting here...lol). Anyway below is excerpts from the interview...
Why are there so many rich people in Winners?
Because they know better than their contemporaries. If you don’t know what you have, you won’t know if you are deprived of it. The Bible is an open chequebook, it is by revelation we access what belongs to us; by faith we take delivery of it. Someone had access to our empowerment programme and she is a pepper seller, while others sell one basket a day, she sells six, seven. I learnt she had become the envy of all the pepper sellers in her area. Such person has an understanding that whatever she does, she prospers and she knows that when she pays her tithe, she experiences open heavens. But in case people don’t know, they perish for lack of knowledge, and in case they think when you are rich you miss heaven, then they perish for lack of knowledge.
So, it’s right when people claim that this church is only for the rich?
It’s for all the people who believe that Jesus already paid for them to be rich. And those who don’t believe, when they come they start believing when they see it happen in a lot of people’s lives. And we are not ashamed to be called the church of the rich. If they call your family poor, will you be excited? Nobody would be excited. Even when a family is poor, they hate to be called poor. No man in his right mind enjoys being called poor, and nobody truly wants to be poor, people may pretend. Which is more honourable between being a giver and a beggar? Most of us came in very poor, but the light of God’s word came on us and we walked out of poverty in grand style into wealth and riches. 

How come there is such wealth in the church despite the poverty in the nation?
The kingdom of God is funded by God’s resources. We are not funded by the economy of the world, but by the economy of the kingdom, which has a budget for all of its agenda on earth. We’ve been here since 1999 and we have never had power outage or water shortage. The main players are Nigerians, the builders are Nigerians. There is no building here that any foreign expert took part in. There is no foreign company’s presence here, including the tabernacle. Some of the revered foreign companies here in Nigeria are technicians in Germany, and they are all political contractors, not that they have something special to offer.

Read the rest of the interview on Punch

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Anonymous said...

What truth has he spoken? Pls point it out for me. Can't just figure out one truth here.

Anonymous said...

God forgive you cos u knw not wat u say.

Anonymous said...

My people perish for lack of knowledge, just so u knw, he doesn't need to sell off all his wealth cos he's already a follower of Christ. The mentality of people dis days baffles me, does it mean the followers and disciples of God are not entitled to riches and good things of life?

Jsoa said...

Ode. In a university lecturers, admin staff r wat? Wat is ur definition of job creation? Pls think right.

Anonymous said...

A natural man cannot understand the things of the spirit neither can he know them for they are spiritual discern. What my Papa was saying is not actually for everybody so don't kill yourselves for nothing. He has not equally begged you to come to church and give so why the headache. I'm a pertaker of what this prophet carries

Jsoa said...

Did u say Adeboye? Wash ur face and read again.

Omabegho Joseph said...

You are but a fool!! Your statement is baseless and pointless. Please get wise.

Anonymous said...

Chei I haff c mumu. Hu is he followin kwan? Ur grandfather's agbara? Dr r mumus nd dr r mumus, u r a world class mumu

Anonymous said...

Please come to church in Canaanland Ota tomorrow before you speak a word against this man of God.

ANYA IKENGA said...

Papa I tap into this anointing and declare kingdom riches on myself. In Jesus name.

Anonymous said...

Its ur generation dat is made up of thieves. Did he steal ur money. Dis is y people like u will die in poverty

Anonymous said...

Oh plz cnt attend such churches

Anonymous said...

Papa u can't be wrong. Ur word is for the wise. Thank u sir for always feedings us wit fact, u are truelly aman of God u dnt condole shit wit govt u kept on saying dere is gona b a time churches will run the economy of a nations. Someone said create job I guess u need to go to covenant uni n see staff both acedemic n non, the ventures n all oda biznesses runin in the church dnt forget the pastors are graduate and are well paid pls if dey telll ow many jobs were bn created u will shout halleluya. U are sent and is obvious.

Anonymous said...

I agree 2 jare!will u identify wit a church where members r wallowing in poverty or one where dere r obvious signs of progress,prosperity & favor from God?abeg Linda read ur bible on payment of tithe & stop all dis unnecessary skepticism & controversy on d issue...fear God!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Christainity is not stupidity. Why should you pay tithe and not know where the money is going to. Let's stop being gullible.

Anonymous said...

Linda you mean u don't tithe??? Hmmm better watch it and do the right thing so the money u claim to be making can be a lasting one! Don't rob God of what belongs to Him. On a serious note Linda and those who don't tithe.... don't be foolish and think you are wise... the big boys are in church, tithing and doing BIG things for God yet they never lack but keep having.
A word is enough for the wise.

Anonymous said...

Is opening a university not a job creation avenue? Think b4 u write

Anonymous said...

True believers not through, ur spelling is enough to take u to hell

Anonymous said...

Na devil he de follow bfore? Be careful d way u talk abt a man of God

Anonymous said...

He left everything n followed Christ....that's the reason for his blessings.....believe it or not........a man that God used to build His church......Abeg park well...@.Anonymous....12.51pm

jones said...

You are such an idiot ! Is he not following Christ already ? Where were you when he had only his Volkswagen Beetle ? That MAN, DAVID OLANIYI OYEDEPO, is a true Man of God ! HE IS ONE OF GOD'S GENERALS ! Believe me !

Anonymous said...

BLESSED BE GOD ! EXCEEDING GRACE SIR !

Anonymous said...

Good one

Ada said...

That is my Beloved Papa - BISHOP DAVID OLANIYI OYEDEPO ! I love him too much ! HE IS ONE OF GOD'S GENERALS ! EXCEEDING GRACE SIR ! BLESSED BE GOD !

Anonymous said...

U people beefing Oyedepo should go and lick bitter leaf soup not stew like somebody pointed out. When he was driving volkswagen beettle, where were u? Bad belle people. Is it only in Winners chapel dat dey drive flashy cars? Or is he d only pastor in naija dat own private jet? Mtcheww, becos he doesn't announce his scholarship prog dat takes place almost every year in almost all d branches of his church world wide, you think he doesn't help d poor in our society.

His haterz should go and hug transforfer. Shikana!

Anonymous said...

BLESSED BE GOD ! EXCEEDING GRACE SIR !

jones said...

You are such an idiot ! Is he not following Christ already ? Where were you when he had only his Volkswagen Beetle ? That MAN, DAVID OLANIYI OYEDEPO, is a true Man of God ! HE IS ONE OF GOD'S GENERALS ! Believe me !

Unknown said...

The Church seems to have lost focus. May God open our eyes because things don't necessarily work for you all because you pay tithes. God allows rain fall on the farm of the wicked. Pastors forget about salvation, righteousness, humility, love... preaching prosperity, seed offering, first fruits and what not. They use money generated from the church to build schools yet most of their members can't afford the outrageous fees. God is not moved by tithes( how much can you possibly give Him?)

Unknown said...

But seriously, for those of u dat don't even know my papa and are busy making thoughtless comments,u need to be dat stupid so dat wen some of us start to fly, u'll help us manage our accounts...haha...now for those of u dat won't stop saying trash, d man doesn't even know u, or ur lineage, he doesn't even have time for ur comments....for u dat is looking for bishop oyedepo to sell his jets to u haha....u need a fresh baptism of d Holyspirit so dat he can explain dat scripture to u...jobless human beign...

Anonymous said...

Idiot is there malachi 6 in the bible

Anonymous said...

U must be an idiot....illiterate oshi, so until 1 is poor b4 u know dat he is following christ.Ode

BON O. said...

Who be Bonario's Baby kwa.

Anonymous said...

ShutUp jare ode buruku.....illiterate!

Anonymous said...

Only fools doubt proofs. #shikena

Unknown said...

Ode he wil sell you ur family and ur entire village sef to follow christ...ewu sierra Leone

Unknown said...

Na poverty go kill u..I see u enjoy being poor.

Unknown said...

I can promise u that wen u come to winners God of Oyedepo wil heal ur vocabulary and take away ur stupidity

Anonymous said...

All these people saying he should sell his possestions and give money to the poor,there is something u should know that prosperity answers to tithing and giving,if u are a tither u will give to the needy.Bishop is a giver no doubt, and u saying u should give ur tithe to the poor,d bible says bring all ur tithes to the store house so that there will be meat in my house.Bishop u see today wasn't like this before,he was a man that poverty was written all over his face,nobody knows him then,now that God has brought him to this point and is taking him to higher grounds pple are criticizing him.One thing is sure what ever is not of God fades with time so am begging u pple that go about talking ill about a man of God be careful.There is no church that doesn't have cruel members.Take time and listen to his teachings.

Olamide yiiiiiiiiiiiii said...

when I see some LIB readers quote and use Bible verses, I just wished they had read their ridiculous statement before posting it..
I'm not surprised though, even d blogger is not sure about tithe.

Unknown said...

See y u cnt afford it, cus we don't need pple like you to come pollute the air with spelling errors and bad eng construction

Unknown said...

Sorry for ur loss....im glad u said it all" bad seed among the good" im sure in ur family thre are bad seeds but those that make ur father or mother bad?

Anonymous said...

Its just a pity and so sad that the mentality of an avrage nigerian is all about money money money. Worse still is that our so called pastors have decided to preach money instead of righteousness. A thiefing politician will steal millions to pay tithes and they will be given seats in front of the church and be clapped for. That is why, even with all these mushroom modern day churches sprouting everywhere,corruption is still at its peak. Its just so sad! Gullible nigerians.

Anonymous said...

Do u know the welfare package they have for orphans widows and all? Bcos he is a pastor does it mean he can't do business? Jesus was a carpenter does it mean he gave out for free Wat he maid?

Holy Guy said...

I was in Bishop Oyedepos church some ten years back and he did an alter call for people that want to sacrifice something for God above their tithes, I was jobless and and I went out to the alter, on the way a voice said to me pledge 3 months salary of the new job ure expecting and I did so, 2 weeks later I got a job in the bank and i fulfilled my earlier vow, i was on that job in thesame bank from December 2003 to April 2012 I.e 9 years and I never lacked a dime for my needs, I witnesed many sacks in the bank but nothing happened to me/I was untouchable by Gods grace, I resigned honourably to start my own biz right now and I have been experiencing Gods favour all around me, you all should understand that the church does not need ur money but u should be obedient to Gods words to give bountifully and unconditionally, just do your part and let the pastor be accountable to God, money is useless to God and he never created it but man, Bishop David Oyedepo, God bless u sir for being an instrument of liberation from poverty

Truth said...

Linda, the bible is very clear that christians should pay tithes,do more research into the bible to understand this, also the Bible prohibits gay and lesbianism, also Bishop started his church under an old canopy with less than 20 members many years back, u can get a copy of his book titled The Mandate, Bishop has used this principles purposely packaged by God to help Nigeria/Africa overcome lack and poverty yet thesame poor people only want to be always fed with fishes instead of learning how to fish

Truth said...

Linda, the bible is very clear that christians should pay tithes,do more research into the bible to understand this, also the Bible prohibits gay and lesbianism, also Bishop started his church under an old canopy with less than 20 members many years back, u can get a copy of his book titled The Mandate, Bishop has used this principles purposely packaged by God to help Nigeria/Africa overcome lack and poverty yet thesame poor people only want to be always fed with fishes instead of learning how to fish

Mischievous said...

Jesus Christ preached salvation not prosperity!

The apostles preached salvation not prosperity!

Anonymous said...

Money is very good no doubt, God has order & principles that must be followed. You must first seek Gods kingdom & his righteouness, match ur faith with work, and be gud at whatever u'r doing. Going to church & paying ur tithe alone cannot gv u riches. The bishop hv paid his dues, he didn't arrive at this height over night.

lolo said...

He took up his cross and paid his dues a long time ago and followed christ. Now following Christ has brought him so much wisdom and wealth. How would he sell all what God has put in his care and follow Jesus again? Did Jesus die twice to be followed for the second time? Think about this okay? God will clear every form of misunderstanding you have when reading his WOrd amen

Anonymous said...

Shut up. Since u know best to be instructiong him what happened to you taking care of the needy. Even if he were perfect you will still have a correction. Take several seats jareh

Anonymous said...

Who asked for your attendance. Does this man or church look like they in desperation for more members? Promo for what? You are stupid! !!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 2:49 u are indeed a fool, u cant even speak english and u criticizing a great nan of God, may God not strike u dead

Anonymous said...

You took the words out of my mouth!

Anonymous said...

Follow the link and read the full interview. Then come back Nd comment

Anonymous said...

People will just come and be commenting. Did Papa knw abt it?? Hear this man of God talk and u'll knw tht he would hv dealt with such a deacon if he knew. Btw, there will always be wolves where sheep are. The fact tht the deacon wasn't sincere doesn't mean Papa isn't. Once when Dbanj came to give testimony, he afterwards said "An award without Christ is no award at all

Anonymous said...

You should be boasting abt Jesus Christ not Pastor Chris. Reexamine ur faith brother if it be genuine.

Anonymous said...

Do you knw how many people attend the church?? So he will question everyone right?? Pls reason well. He preaches integrity at all times, and he is a giver in all ramifications(the poor included). When the govt refused to do th road, he did it. Pls don't talk with knowledge. Do not bear false witness

Anonymous said...

Bfor u talk nonsense, go around the community n ask questions, how many ppl r bn help n hw dr commumity has improved. Its unwise true baseless arguement

Anonymous said...

In ur mind u jst made a comment. Dnt keep quiet n concentrate on wearing dos ur tight gay looking jean.

Truth said...

If we christians have not being paying tithe, the church will not have the resources to have the impact it has had today,u just take a look around and see the church transforming life in Nigeria, schools and cities are being built, this izs the power of giving and it can never be destroyed, the truth is that poverty(Oshi) never attracts anybody or you Linda, can u date or marry a poor guy/church rat with ur level of success? The truth is that wealth, prosperity and success is what attracts and this is actually the life God called us to live, I have seen how poverty destroys peoples hope, charisma, personality, poverty makes people wicked and lowminded, poverty destroys and limits ur creativity, it prevents u from achieving ur purpose so why embrace it? U will be suprised when u get to Bishop Oyedepos church, a whole lot of other things thhey will teach u apart from wealth and please they give massively to the poor but is it not better to teach some one how to fish rather than feed him fish everyday? Bishop Oyedepo will teach u how to follow God and riches will then follow u

Unknown said...

yeah, tithing is necessary. God bless u bishop Oyedepo

Dydaa said...

Anon. 4:46 like seriouslyyyyy? All dat insult from u a child of God to anoda? Ur even worse than who called the man a thief. Ur quite pathetic.

Anonymous said...

Linda,this interview is not complete. U skipped some part. Well said my bishop.

Anonymous said...

You've said it all ... He who have ears , let him hear

Anonymous said...

I wonder why Linda picked only this part in the entire interview when he made so many intelligent points and boko haram menace. You are obviously looking for a means where people will abuse this man of God. Your hatred for Bishop Oyedepo is the only thing I don't like about you. Bishop might have his flaws but one thing is certain, he is a TRUE MAN OF GOD

Anonymous said...

1000 likes

Anonymous said...

Stealing is one thing, Using GOD to steal and take from the less privileged and flaunting it in their faces is Heartless. Asking for outrageous fees for education, turning the House of God into a business center. Papa or whatever your mumu followers call you, You are a THIEF and your judgement will be special, your death will be brutal for misleading so many people, an taking from them. When you die all your private jet and riches will go to the masses you have cheated for years and you will be buried just like every other normal human being. So if you like, steal from now till whenever, just remember that GOD is watching!!! All those BILLIONS in your account will not follow you anywhere, so it is best you share the riches and die with a clean heart. Jesus did not stark money in bank accounts, or have a bank in his own name. In fact this PAPA is a Fucking BASTARD. CANNAN LAND bank My ASS. When you die, we go know how much of our money de your many accounts. Even your son that you placed in your church in the UK has been exposed of using the church as a means of extorting from people. PAPA your place in HELL is secure! Wicked MAN of god!

ZeeZee said...

Let them boast over what God is doing... I belive in all he's saying and i can c y people want to twist his words- READ THEM

Anonymous said...

Don't put your self in trouble with God. You don't have the right or audacity to judge another mans servant

Anonymous said...

I want to the church to pay my tithe. When I got there I met the parish priest and told him, father I want to pay my tithe. The first question he asked me was: What do you do for a living? I told him am a student. Why are you paying tithe? Because I also do business. What kind of business? I had to explain before he collected d tithe and prayed for me.Moral lesson. .....

Anonymous said...

Tell them o!

Anonymous said...

Dis man of God is doing to d community and d extensin wat ur govt failed to do,and yet u are criticizing. Sit down dere and dine eiv poverty. Common Nigerians that lack knowledge amd no absolute nuffin are d ones wu has d loudest voice to utter nonsense....smh

Anonymous said...

Wu is a winner, dat has eva complained to u for help or anyfin, none, except d ignorant ones. Bcos dey all know watto do atany situation, and it is working. So y den criticize wen u too cam do likewise and tins begin to change for u. IT WORKS PEOPLE. dnt be decieved. Dis principles works

PD said...

I love winners, I love Bishop Oyedepo.I m joining winners soon by God's grace.

Anonymous said...

Halleluyah!!! God be praised

Anonymous said...

Thats my Papa!!!! Tell dem!!! You are what you decided to be...decided today to b rich, speak into ur future and life, dream big,pray, pay your tithes, believe and watch yourself GROW!!

Anonymous said...

They shld reduce covenant university's tuition fees, so that you people(agberos and devils) would go there and mess the place up for us abi? See wat happened with LASU? Good fees,more decent people. And BTW, Covenant university charges one of the least fees within the private university sector owned by churches, go chk babcock

Unknown said...

I am a WINNER...will remain a WINNER.

Believe it or no....Love him or no...He is God-sent.
I love you PAPA.

We remain RICH!

Anonymous said...

Gullible Christians!

Anonymous said...

Pls go for knowledge if u lack, u talkin abt job opportunities, wont d universities create one, think abt d cleaners dat will wtk thr, cathrers, lecturers, drivers, furniture wrk n d rest, so pls think b4 u talk..n also for ppl dat re angry dat d church is rich, keep gettin angry n d church keeps growing ok. Dont wrk on ursef n keep stalkin odas u hear.... n for linda keep mockin n d Lord keeps takin His ppl higher

Anonymous said...

I know loads of winners members that are poor and wretched and I think the majority are the poor ones living on the mercy of the rich. Let him not come here and brag on.

Bunch of materialistic minded "so called" men of god..

Anonymous said...

Bishop u 're on point. There's no gainsaying it.U just have to try and see...

Anonymous said...

believe it or not...it works....I'm a testimony to these prophesies...

now what i would expose u to; in order to rid off the wide spread ignorance is...

the bible says only " if ye believe" ...up to u, if u wish to receive...

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much for pointing this out. Most of these pastors believe in tithes given directly to dem. But the truth is, you must not give tithe to the church, give it to the widows, orphans and less privileged. God will bless you more!

Materazzi said...

Wisdom is a very rare thing. only a minority are blessed with it.....

nilda said...

That's the foolishness of man!in the bible there are different types of to giving and each of them comes with its own blessings...We have first fruit, things, giving to the poor etc so stop mixing scriptures and study your bible properly before you come here to talk...your tithe is not for the poor!...and bishop adeboye is a doer of the word he also pays his thine and he is a terrible giver you don't know does not mean he foes not give...and if you say people are dying around him is it his fault when jess was alive did people not die?and nd in your bible where the richest people like a lomond, David etc where they not men of God!There is pure foolishness and the strategy of the devil to fight wealthy pastors and as far as am concerned the term "propsperty" this simply means to move forward so a lot of Christians have been lied by the devil and over emphasis the property thing...We all pray to be wealthy and everyday we pray to prosper so it's just hypocrisy to pretend that you don't want what they have. ..am not a member of his church and I don't have to be ....am just glad that Christians are taking over..can't wait to see the richest man in the world to be a christian in fact it will be even sweeter if it's a man of God

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