The idea was conceived by Wole himself, at least I know he was the one who talked to me. I don’t know who spoke to the other five members but we actually assembled at Teeder Hall, the second hall to be completed after Melamby. We assembled in the basement and just made merry in the evening. We were just out to be different and I saw it to be fun. None of us envisaged that we were laying the foundation of a virulent cult in that 1953/54 session, though the association insisted that it was in 1952 hence they celebrated their 50 years in 2002. At that basement we had something to drink, nothing potent, we went around the campus in unusual ways, we were well known and there was nothing like secret oath, nothing spiritual about it all.
You earlier said people doubted your new life because of what you have dipped your hands into. What were these things?
I am one of those who founded Pyrates Confraternity (PC) and I am one of those who maintained that though PC which transformed to National Association of Seadogs (NAS) truly dissociated itself from PC on campuses, it can not really separate itself from it. This was the basis of the attack of Prof. Wole Soyinka on me at their 50th anniversary where he gave an 18-page lecture, where substantial part of it was an attack on me and my ministry. That only showed me that his camp noted that someone has left them. In fact, I have just finished writing a reply to him on that.
I am one of those who founded Pyrates Confraternity (PC) and I am one of those who maintained that though PC which transformed to National Association of Seadogs (NAS) truly dissociated itself from PC on campuses, it can not really separate itself from it. This was the basis of the attack of Prof. Wole Soyinka on me at their 50th anniversary where he gave an 18-page lecture, where substantial part of it was an attack on me and my ministry. That only showed me that his camp noted that someone has left them. In fact, I have just finished writing a reply to him on that.
My attitude is that whatever we may say today, it was the idea of PC that gave rise to these virulent cults. Even though we were not violent when we started it and we didn’t call it cult, but the cult culture began after when we started. Today, they still recognise we the founders as the Magnificent 7! The NAS does not want to agree with that. Though they decreed that no PC should not exist on campuses, but we all know that they still do. The fact is if they say they have no link to the ones on the campuses, I’ll be prepared to accept that but to say they don’t exist on campuses, I disagreed and we parted ways on that.
At the time you started, what was the criteria used to recruit members
It was solely based on friendship. My own interpretation was that at the appropriate time, Satan hijacked what we started since we didn't know where we were going.
What were the creed of the association?
I wrote it somewhere I can not locate now. I think they were to abolish
convention, revive the age of chivalry (where you show deference to the
weaker sex) etc. In any case I can’t remember anything that we did to
promote those creeds. The motto was; Orders Is Orders. Also, Wole did not stay long enough because he
left a year after for Leeds, because he wanted to study English honours
which was not available as a course in Ibadan then. I think Ralph Opara
took over from him as the head. But I stayed till 1956 when I left for
Britain. Three of us Wole, me and Pius Olehie, who formed the PC, were
from the same class in Government College, Ibadan while Ralph Opara was a
year before us.
So when would you say Pyrates Confraternity became virulent?
So when would you say Pyrates Confraternity became virulent?
I think by the 1980s. The thing is that at the beginning, there was only
PC and so many people struggled to be a member because it was a
prestigious thing. When I returned from Britain, some students who
wanted to become members needed a lecturer to sponsor their membership,
those who came to me got my nod.
Up till about 1972, PC was the only association, but when there was schism over one of them who violated the law and he was not ready to subject himself to discipline, he left and started a rival organisation and that was how the Buccaneers Confraternity started. About the same time, Eye Confraternity started. You must not also forget that violence was become rife in the society. This began in Ibadan with Operation Wetie around 1964/ 65. Things became intolerable until the coup in 1967.
Up till about 1972, PC was the only association, but when there was schism over one of them who violated the law and he was not ready to subject himself to discipline, he left and started a rival organisation and that was how the Buccaneers Confraternity started. About the same time, Eye Confraternity started. You must not also forget that violence was become rife in the society. This began in Ibadan with Operation Wetie around 1964/ 65. Things became intolerable until the coup in 1967.
Violence became the order of the day and it crept into PC by the time, I had become disenchanted with the club and was ready to leave. Some of the PC members had their vision beclouded by violence and the old PC decided to form National Association of Seadogs and went ahead to register it at the Corporate Affairs. They said PC should no longer exist on campuses but there is a difference between saying and establishing it.
So the whole thing between Wole and I was the inability to establish what they proposed, and so other groups began to spring up in various universities using the name Pyrates Confraternity because nobody has any right on the name. This is the problem between Wole and I.
At what point did you renounce your membership?
I must say that I did not officially renounce until I became a
Christian. I kept being less and less active because I kept seeing it as
an activity for children and younger people. But when I became
born-again and established this ministry, I consciously went to God and
confess that we were the people who started this thing, which has become
something we did not envisage. I asked Him to forgive me and forgive
the rest of us and I confessed on behalf of others too. That is the only
time I’ll say I renounced it. It was a private thing.
Have you done that publicly?
Have you done that publicly?
No, I have not bothered but I’ve told all who are concerned that I’m no
longer one of them. At any public opportunity, I always say it and they
know that I am no longer one of them. If Wole could take the trouble to
attack me in an 18-page report, then I know it has registered that I am
no longer one of them.
Did they make any effort to ask you why you were leaving?
Did they make any effort to ask you why you were leaving?
No, we did not bond ourselves to be members forever. I think when they
found out that I stopped turning up for their meetings that must have
convinced them that I was no longer interested. But I didn’t make any
statement concerning them until I started this ministry and got involved
in the University as chairman of Anti-cultism Campaign Committee.
Did you take the cultism to a higher level like joining the Ogboni, as people believe it happens?
Did you take the cultism to a higher level like joining the Ogboni, as people believe it happens?
As I said, I was only active in it between 1953 and 1957after which I
left for Britain. When I came back in 1960, I was on the staff of the
University and was just an adviser to them. I didn’t know what they did
at their services (meetings) I didn’t know when the oath taking, etc
started or if it was actually done. However, I know it is done today.
This is what the Seadogs pretend not to know.
Have you spoken about Christ to Wole Soyinka?
Have you spoken about Christ to Wole Soyinka?
I have not but I will certainly welcome the opportunity. The only
problem I envisage is that unless God softens Wole’s heart, it might be
difficult to speak with him on Christ.
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the cult that keep killing people
Hmmmmmmm.... lipsealed #onelovefromSnow#
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Looonnnng story!! Couldn't finish it, am just gonna sit and read my fellow lib comments
It used to be good when it was confraternity but now it's "confra" and bad news
So bad that a confraternity that was established to bring unity among students is now turned into a secret cult.
Phew! My take is that either way just like every other stuff practiced in our society,cultism would have made its way into our society.
Just like most of our religions which are foreign importations into our society, and today most of us has taking them to another level different from what those who founded them had in mind.
~BONARIO~says so via NOKIA LUMIA
Vigilance is of high importance in every area of one's life. Think twice before getting involved in whatsoever thing and you won't regret. It is well. 1 cor 15:33. BishopDammy#
Alora.....
hmmmmm I use to attend their monthly parties (Seadogs)every 1st Saturday of the month. mehn it was always creepy from 5am.
He didn't answer this question
"Did you take the cultism to a higher level like joining the Ogboni, as people believe it happens? "
This interview is an expensive one...
History
BORN TO SHINE!!!
Ok.
It's quite unfortunate that some unconscious decisions made by the older generation is greatly affecting our younger generation. As time goes on, student will lose interest in cultism. That I'm sure of.
Wat Abt KEGITE Club
Nawah ooo. d pix looks real culties i beg. may God redirect their minds and forgive all cuz d lives lost in cultism is schools are just too many.
PC no even get mouth..DEM B MUGU SET...na fyn boi dem sabi do....
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
Lmao at d last sentence..
D man is plain honest.... so much sincerity in every thing spoken. wole really nids to b soften. All ds icons always forming iron man
a.k.a EDWIN CHINEDU AZUBUKO said...
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This is a gud script for a Nigeria movie i swear....
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***CURRENTLY IN JUPITER***
Behold the True and Real Sailors
I prefer 'Buckets' cos they are always handsome..
It should be Professor Muyiwa Awe. Professor Bolanle Awe is his wife. Fertile brains!
We might no d beginning of a thing but the end we might not fathom yet ...this is a lesson for us all..I pray God draw us close to himself more than we expect...
Yeah wole and co were the pioneers of cultism in Nigerian universities yet they always claim hollier than thou and attack gej at every giving opportunity. He who is without sin, should cast the first stone.
2-2's apache......Ayeez for life
This is a perfect example of how a good thing can turn bad in a snap if not properly guided or if there isn't a proper foundation.
GO TO GOD IN PRAYER CONCERNING HIS REPENTANCE ..ASK HOLY GHOST TO CONVIT HIS SOUL , IF YOU CAN PRAY FERVENT PRAYER FOR HIM ,HE MUST SURELY BE ARRESTED BY CHRIST.....IF GOD CAN VISIT SAUL TO PAUL ,W THEN WHO IS PROF WOLE SOYINKA
Hmmmn. How leaving all open leads to welcoming the unpleasant warmly. 7c112097
@Linda- were you the one that interviewed him? Please give proper credit. My sister deserves better than this. I know how hard she worked to get this interview. It is so unfair!!! Her name is not there.
Publish this comment.
@Linda- were you the one that interviewed him? Please give proper credit. My sister deserves better than this. I know how hard she worked to get this interview. It is so unfair!!! Her name is not there.
Publish this comment.
And this is the root of alot of evil. God dey
Seadogz on da loose,confraternity is fun bt evil in naija won't let it be so.....I jst wonder y dey alwayz fight sha.... #BlackNation
~@iamjbankz SA to President Jonathan 2015~
u did not lay a good foundation.....though u were ignorant of wat was coming..thats lyfoooo
Sigh
I find it difficult to believe that a self confessed born again Christian can be giving lies and half - truth to the media. I was a member of PC throughout my stay in the university and I was a saltcoat for years after my graduation before I eventually traveled out and later became born again. At no time has anybody ever preached violence or evil to me in any of our gatherings. Infact following the teachings as in the four compass points and seven rudder blades later helped me to be highly disciplined and principled to always stand against all forms of societal evils even when majority seem to be on the side of such. I'm now a born again Christian and I did not confess anything concerning my past membership of PC because I know we did not do anything fetish or evil throughout my seadogism/active sailing years.
even though it was started then, I don't know what our youth gain from this act they have turned to oppression and blood bath on our campuses, where everybody is chasing money.Abeg ooo na 21st century money on my mind Mx3.
Linda! Post the one way you know ooo.
aggrieved revelation..
From what I get from the interview is that prof awe is trying to make wole soyinka Iook bad or trying paint a picture of mystery; on one he said what they started was just an association of friends and he and prof.wole had to even travel out a year later . And on the other hand he is saying he confessed when he became born again . So why confess if what they did then was just to hang out and have fun or was there something sinister they did back then and he is feeling guilty about?
hw come hs so sure of d oath taking n occultic activities if he disassociated as early as d 50s.
NAS is not occultic.if persons in higher institutions parade themselves as members they are impersonators and shld be handed ova to d appropriate authorities
THis is hmmmmmmm
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You will still love on – Myles Munroe
Lesson from the prodigal son
The danger of refusing His instruction
Foolish Kid....
I see a skull in the picture they took in 1953. If I may ask, what is a score doing as a logo of a peaceful organization? They tell d story to d gods jor..
Awe is a lagger.. Ahoy Seadogs!!!
Ahoi. Orders is orders! Alora
Hmmmm
I heard about Wole being the grand patron of a cult that has a branch in Jos and did convention all around the country especially in Lagos, did not know it was deeper than that.
The picture of a human skull and Bones
Yet they are claiming peaceful association
Pirate is not cultism. Piracy is a discipline association, all members and people who are close to AHOYs can testify to this, but looking at the modern days settings one would have a doubting mind about how members (most especially those at schools) operate. I am a member and I duly follow the tenets of piracy, this has been helping me in life cos I hardly get annoyed or fight. Kudos to the founding fathers and woes to oppersors, those who out of annoyance and ignorance formed what is called cultism in our tertiary institutions today.... #ASA....... adewunmisamod@gmail.com
Fine boys Nyben 4 life who no come no go know!
wole started Pirate because SIGMA CLUB didnt admit him into d club
Mumu, wake up
Capo du tutu Capi, Captain Blood of Tortugal.
Capt J.D
Ohhh common lindodo
Na old gist nah
Back then yabatech was one of their meetin point
Beside their cult aint deadly like d one we have now, they were a group of guys who stood for justice in the educational sector
Have you not been seen Skull and Cross bones around? It simply means Caution!
They never intend violent , but wen it turn violent they all kept quiet, yet people are dying...I stil Love Wole Soyinka tho, jst cant understand why such a well read man, could be Ignorant wen it comes to God.
#Uhuru to all blackmen....Dodos To All NBM Members#
Kudos to Wole,the founder of the great but mischievously misunderstood Confraternity.
Thank you for being honest. The 4-3-7 creed, if adhered to, actually makes you a better man. Let those who spew false news about the confrat continue to stew in their ignorance...I wish you well in your new found life,brother.....Ahii 2 ur bones!
"It's all fun and games till someone breaks a leg"
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Am advance lagger for that matter!
AHOY Sea dog, Kudos to 1st seven sail dogs.....every lagga shall be troway board for fishes to manipulate...
Alora brotherly
Too sad
It's Prof. Olumuyiwa Awe and not Prof. Bolanle Awe albeit both have affinal connections. Let's get our facts right hence it may all be anecdotal.
On another note Muyiwa is the first African Physics professor on the African continent and first president of the Nigerian Institute of Physics and an achiever by all standards. Let's not be myopic in our views and as usual be psychofans of I must say the great Wole Soyinka. Things have to be looked at objectively but I guess that don't make good press.
For your information Awe remains a very content and accomplished scientist despite all ridicule.
Please let's call a spade a spade and give this man his earned and well deserved recognition in our great country's history irrespective of what grievances he may have with his childhood friend.
Linda good and enlightening post nevertheless.
Ignorant wen it comes to God? So u have to be a christian to not be ignorant?
Mumu abi mumu
Prof Olumuyiwa Awe, emeritus Professor of Physics, child and servant of God passed away today 3rd May 2015 at the age of 82.
A distinguished Professor and teacher, beloved husband, Father and grandfather and a man of honour.
Just don't say what you do not know. Have you witnessed them kill anyone or are you just talking from hearsay?
May his soul rest with the FGTs as he sayle in heaven... Ahoy long John silver may you continue to sayle for ever. Ahoy to your rugged bone.
The skull and crossbones remind us that at the end, we all shsll end up as bones. Yoi would nit differentiate between the bone of rich or that of the poor. At the end what matters is the legacy we leave behind.
What is FGTs? Federal Government of T? I tot is supposed to be Nigeria? You're not even patroitic. FGTs.
FGTs is beyond your comprehension. Make do with what you understand. May his F S R I P.
What is FGTs? Federal Government of T? I tot is supposed to be Nigeria? You're not even patroitic. FGTs.
Land lubber....lol!
Sayle on with the FGTs...
He has passed on to the bossom of the Lord, may his gentle soul rest in perfect peace. Amen
FGT's means forgone terrors and FSRIP means forgone soul rest in peace
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