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Sunday, 3 March 2013

Catholic Church may have already had a black pope

 
An article I found on USA today. Read below...

'The early papacy was not white, it was much more diverse,' says a historian of African-American Catholicism.

Ghanaian cardinal Peter Turkson is frequently mentioned amid all the speculation about who might succeed Pope Benedict XVI. If picked, some would see him as the first African and the first black pontiff in the nearly 2,000-year history of the papacy.
But in all that time has there really never been a black pope? Or an African pope? It depends on what you mean by "black" and by "African."
Hmmmm. Continue reading...



It can seem to the contemporary mind that the papacy is a purely European institution, and predominantly an Italian one to boot. In fact, the early popes reflected the diversity of the early church — a community that was born in the Middle East and spread around the Mediterranean basin, from Greece to Rome and the Iberian peninsula and with great success to North Africa.
"North Africa was the Bible Belt of early Christianity," said Christopher Bellitto, a church historian at Kean University in New Jersey. "Carthage was the buckle," he added, referring to the city located in modern-day Tunisia.

So it should be no surprise that three early popes hailed from that region: the 14th pope, Victor I (circa 189-198 A.D.); the 32nd pope, Miltiades (311-314 A.D.); and the 49th pope, Gelasius I (492-496 A.D.).

According to the sixth-century Liber Pontificalis, the earliest known record of the popes, Victor was from North Africa, while Miltiades and Gelasius likely were born in Rome to families of African origin.

Interestingly, Victor was the first pope to speak Latin because Christians in Rome were still using Greek in the liturgy. As one historian has written, it was "remarkable ... that Latin should have won recognition as the language of African Christianity from the outset, while the Roman church was still using Greek."

But were these three African popes "black" in the sense that we would define race today? And did it matter back then?

The Rev. Cyprian Davis, a Benedictine priest who is a leading historian of African-American Catholicism, notes that by Pope Victor's time, the Roman aristocracy had large holdings in North Africa. It's not clear, however, whether these so-called African popes came from those families or from the rural, somewhat darker-skinned indigenous population known as the Berbers.
Davis said the best bet for what we would consider a "black" pope is probably Victor, but he added that the church and the empire of those early centuries were a mosaic of colors and ethnicities.
"It's important for us to look and say that yes, the early papacy was not white. No, it was much more diverse than you might think," Davis said.

Moreover, race as we think of it today did not have quite the same meaning back then.
"When you say 'black pope,' you have to think Roman Empire, not African-American," as Bellitto put it. Some popes in those days — along with many renowned saints and martyrs and bishops like St. Augustine of Hippo — probably looked more like modern Arabs than any pontiff of the last millennium.

Still, if the cardinals elect Turkson or another cardinal from sub-Saharan Africa, any of them would represent a historic first for the church, geographically and racially. Africa is one of the fastest growing centers of global Catholicism.
"I don't want to say that we blacks have arrived again, and what was once, now we're back!" said Davis with a soft laugh. But, he continued, "I'm sure black Catholics like myself would think it's a wonderful thing."

48 comments:

Kenyan Babe said...

Interesting read...

Immaculate said...

Whether black or white Pope. We are running the race to meet the lord

The Gist Arena said...

I hope they pick a black pope. but i knw politics must enter and they will still look for a white pope. Can they even imagine a black man being a pope? well anything can still happen, after all Obama became a black President of America. lets keep our fingers crossed.

Obianuju said...

I'm not in d mood to read now biko. But according to Malachi's prophesy, abi he said d next pope will b Peter... Smthing smthing. Gd luck to d Roman catholic church. I just pray God leads d cardinals to elect d ryt person. Kachifo.

Chikaka said...

Did you not know that and you are a Catholic?

Cyndy said...

So the Ghanaian is d anti-christ Peter the Piper.

Anonymous said...

Im a catholic and its goodnews to know we might have a black pope.Let it be done accordin to your will Lord!

BONARIO NNAGS said...

hmmmmm I can't wait to av d white smoke emanate from d chimney at d Sistine chapel. If its not Catholic its not newsworthy for dis past few weeks.
We told them we careless d colour or race of our supreme Pontiff,yet they're crying more than the bereaved.
Comewhat may the church of Christ is ever immortal.

~BONARIO~says so via NOKIA3310

Marcel Duplexis said...

I read an article today credited to one of the cardinals who said that Africa is still inexperienced to produce the next pope. I'm not catholic, but in my opinion I think the whole saga of electing a pope should not be restricted to demographics. That comment alone smirks of racist idiosyncracies. My bible tells me that God loves all regardless of creed, race or ideology. We may never be able to understand or ever find out the degree of politicking that goes on behind the closed doors of the conclave; I only pray that the outcome shouldn't be one that would be an embarrasment to christainity.

Alicia says... said...

Who fucking cares. A religion that's not even ours. They should have a fucking seat. Race race race....

SENATOR BREEZE said...

Wonderful! A pope from Africa, dat will be great. Buh I no sure diz oyinbo pple go gree sha...... #I crosslege#.

Anonymous said...

Forget it. It won't happen!

Anonymous said...

I pray oooo

Anonymous said...

*Yawns*

Anonymous said...

Thank you jare

Anonymous said...

Alicia says...thank u so very much 4 dat comment.My african brothers&sisters shld try 2 educate demselves so dat they will stop blindly following all dese religions dat have brought notin but problems 2 d world-Atheist4life

Anonymous said...

It will always b like dis.....cos dere is so much lies....it is only God's kingdom dat we will not hv any issue as to who will bcome master cos God sees evry1 as the same.

Xxx said...

Why them no go gree is Obama white?

Anonymous said...

Makes sense...

Anonymous said...

please can de let me be the pope that means I do get money ni yen...........

Anonymous said...

What does having a black pope do to your belief or even the evil in the world. Would it make people accept Jesus more. I think the best thing is to pray for good leaders in the church and world over.

Anonymous said...

last pope tins

Anonymous said...

Whether black or white..wot difference does it make? must we bring racism into everytin??

Anonymous said...

it will happen may be naija cardinal

Chidozie Mario said...

Speculations? It doesn't work that way.
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jacquelyn said...

Linda , this post bring to mind malachy's prophecy about the last pope by the name of Peter. Is high time people start taking things seriously and stop commenting foolingly when some important issues are mentioned. Because I remember some of the stupid comments some made when you blogged about the prophecy.

★★PRINCE CHARMING™★★ said...

All this history put up here just makes a bigger justification of the fact that there hasn't been ever a clear cut "BLACK" pope, period!! And then now, how many black cardinals are there? Compare that to the number of white cardinals, the odds are already against blacks here.

Anonymous said...

Black or White, a Pope is a Pope. We africans should stop all dis talk of "Black Pope", let God decided. Thank God its an elective post and not an appointed post. If God has destined a black man to be pope, no jupiter can change it. So enough with d white cardinals will not agree. I love my Catholic church, one thing I know for sure is dat "They are not Biased and favouritism doesn't exist wen it comes to electing leaders. Duchess says so

Unknown said...

Black or white doesn't matter but your faith is what matters alot.

Birdie said...

Black n pope....don't mix buh hell!! Obama n d white house mixed nicely,am srzly hoping tho.

Anonymous said...

Wether pope na black o̶̲̥̅̊я̣̣̥ white ooo it doesn't change d fact that Heaven is a personal race. All dese catholic matter haff taya me, cos we heard dat anti-christ would rise from the church of God and the next pope peter petrus waheva would be da satan. Errrbody should sha embrace chineke and 4get dis pope thang it wunt take ya to heaven.

Anonymous said...

That's absurd. Learn your 'Black history' about Gelacius. Do you think our history started during slavery. White people believe in evolution yet they believe we swung on tree. We had western civilisations years ago and yes in Congo and Nigeria. Don't listen to the lies of the media and read a book for once or conduct your own research.

Anonymous said...

Repent!jesus Ȋ̝̊̅§ comingg soon.if Ʊ die now,your own jesus has come.*think abt it* friends

Unknown said...

Can will really have black pope? forget history..

Anonymous said...

God's knows d best

Anonymous said...

If its a black pope then d̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ did it just to fufil the prophecy...

Anonymous said...

wether black or white dont gve a shit,al we nid iz gud leaders in d church

Anonymous said...

that one,for una pocket,papacy or no papacy...the gate of hell canot still prevail

Anonymous said...

Peterus Romanus!! Let's watch ds as it unfolds...

Anonymous said...

Alicia, U got a FBk / Twitter id or email?

Anonymous said...

Rightly said

Alicia says... said...

I do but i like remaining anonymous here. LOL

Rayenter10ment said...

We Nigerians strongly believe that who the cap fit should take the position.

Uche said...

Na waoh for Nigerians o! What does colour have to do with papacy? What catholic church need is a good pope! Let God give us the right pope,whether white or black or red or blue,it doesn't matter. Nobody knows God's skin colour! The Holy Catholic church will prevail. Amen.

Anonymous said...

Play by the rules.

cece said...

trust us to give a racial dimension to everything! Does it even matter??

cece

Chipeppy said...

I think that Linda should stop some comments from coming live

Anonymous said...

like i give a fuck. these people changed the bible to suit them from the onset. read history and dont be fooled by these papacy.

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