'Committing abortion when you are raped is double sin' - T.B Joshua
Pastor Chris Oyakhilome said a baby that is a product of rape can be aborted (If you missed it, read here) but pastor T.B Joshua doesn't agree with him. He says committing an abortion when raped is a double sin. Which of these pastors do you agree with?
Beats me, now I understand why why nigerians are so backwards, still so much to learn. I guess well be seeing more babies in the canal, this man goes abt preaching poison and its funny how many ppl fall for it. Hw can anyone with a brain think so irrationally?. Kids get raped n knocked up, some get raped by their own fathers n/or relative. Other get ganged rape...all with posibility that the child will be born with a disease/defect. someone on here admitted to hv aborted a fetus as a result of rape...yet says she agrees with tb joshua gullible nigerians.
Oluchi Effiom you're the biggest and dumbest fool ever for u to have said the catholic church is an occultic church.. The catholic church will never support abortion unlike that your Christ embassy that promotes abortions and divorce.. Anuofia!
Ok sin is sin so how about other form of sin like lies n deception! People of this world and hypocrisy. All I kno is we have a GrCious God whom cares about us making heaven than raising standards that'll take us to hell. A doctors diffinition of abortion clearly differs 4rm an average persons understanding on that. We are just getting unnecessarily emotional on this topic. God looks at the heart of man not the law of life or even bible cuz even bible has phases and at the later phase which is 2day is grace bound. If we notice our babies and children could sometimes be extremely selfish and I don't think any1 here will say they're goin 2 he'll is d sounds comes now. So many tins of this world are God matters not human feelings. Let's not condemn these great Men of 2day whom God is using as well as any other person. SHAWN
GBEMMI< GOD BLESS YOU!!!!> You are the only rational human I have met on this blog! Our Nigerian minds are so lazy that it becomes the law because a "Man of God" said so. Imagine the trauma of being gang raped and pregnant and then keeping the baby; easier said and done! We need to mentally mature in Nigeria before anything changes. We are possessed by the demon called "religion".
Well pastor or no pastor what i feel is killing a child(abortion) is so wrong, that my own point of view.,those that were rape are the ones that knows how it feels and know the next step.,but what we should put in mind is that great kids could come out from rape..may God give us his wisdom cos he is the only one that knows right from wrong
I strongly agree with prophet TB Joshua,a sin is a sin for example after been raped,u got pregnant and you were going to commit an abortion and u got a message from God that the child you are about to get rid off is going to be extremely successful,tell me are you still gonna carry on with your plans of getting rid of the baby?hell no you won't . same thing goes to stealing some people steal for good reason for instance trying to pay the bill of a sick dieing mother at the hospital from a wicked wealthy uncle that has refuse to help,that doesn't make it right,it all balls down to stealing and in the eyes of God it's a sin,everyone should learn how to carry their cross that's what comes with life,Life is deeper than it present itself....
Who is the dumbing,do you understand the meaning of Abortion!killing is a sin and abortion is depriving a child the right to live,it's killing your own flesh and blood so yes it is in the bible.
Its indeed dicey but y is no one advising dt any raped victim shld visit a hospital as soon as possible to flush thr womb so as t prevent unwanted pregnancies? Slikky
U have committed a sin by ur statement, who are u to judge if someone will b in hell....i pity u,read ur bible,d person dat a judged a man if God in d bible,what happened to d person?.... . Go n read ur bible
Men will continue to legislate what they think is right for the body of women forgetting that throughout history, they have been embarrassingly wrong ALL the time. No woman asks to be raped and having to live with and love a constant reminder of such unrivaled trauma ALL YOUR DAYS is something only someone who can't put themselves in the shoes of someone who has been violated can say.That is why TB Joshua will say it is a "DOUBLE SIN" because in his warped understanding, being raped is something God holds against you as a sin. When he is raped, he can choose not to wash up and may even give his violator a kiss. Don't be so arrogant as to legislate morality from your narrow world view.
Men will continue to legislate what they think is right for the body of women forgetting that throughout history, they have been embarrassingly wrong ALL the time. No woman asks to be raped and having to live with and love a constant reminder of such unrivaled trauma ALL YOUR DAYS is something only someone who can't put themselves in the shoes of someone who has been violated can say.That is why TB Joshua will say it is a "DOUBLE SIN" because in his warped understanding, being raped is something God holds against you as a sin. When he is raped, he can choose not to wash up and may even give his violator a kiss. Don't be so arrogant as to legislate morality from your narrow world view.
what if u go ahead for abortion and u lost ur life? what if u pray to God for de baby to know Him, for de baby to become somebody dat will tell people dat Jesus is the giver of life.......
You are stupid, must u experience everything to know about it, haven't you heard of something called wisdom from God which is greater than knowledge. Pick up your bible or shut up! Ignorance at its best!
Abortion is justified in cases of rape Abortion in cases of rape is justified. Pregnancy is no doubt a life-changing experience, and along with the physical burden, there are strong psychological and social burdens. A woman has a right to choose what to do with her body, and preventing a completely unwanted pregnancy is a fair option. Women should not feel shamed or pressured into keeping a child just to satisfy the moral or ethical standards of others who are judgemental but have not experienced the same situation.No. Nobody should be forced to carry a child brought on them by rape. Some people aren't mentally strong enough to go through nine months of pregnancy after the traumatizing experience of rape. And let's not forget about society. Let's be honest, when we see a prenant single woman, we think 'whore'. We do not stop to try and understand them at all, we judge. Adoption takes a really long time. Sometimes it takes years for a couple to be cleared for adoption. Why would you put a rape victim through nine months of pregnancy just to give the child away? So much emotional truama.
a lady was raped then she kills what's worse?...how can you bear the child of a rapist you say?...how can you marry a killer?...rape and killing which is worse...Jesus said let the children come to me...if u can't create life you shouldn't destroy one...not to talk about killing an innocent child
All you clamouring that abortion is a sin, I want you to put yourself in the shoes of a rape victim. Do u think is easy carrying that bastard in your womb for 9 months and also bear the trauma that comes with it for the rest of life. Have all forgotten u that even God killed a child that David had wrongly with another persons wife in 2 Samuel 12:15-19, Now how do u judge that, do u call that a Wicked God. There are so many things we humans can't judge except God alone. For me I pitch my tent with pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Keeping such baby will create more pains upon pains
To a certain level of degree, both pastors are right but on the other hand wrong also. Religiously abortion is a sin but logically, abortion from rape can be considered right. It's down to the victim of rape's personal views. Pastors opinion shouldn't be regarded in this matter
To a certain level of degree, both pastors are right but on the other hand wrong also. Religiously abortion is a sin but logically, abortion from rape can be considered right. It's down to the victim of rape's personal views. Pastors opinion shouldn't be regarded in this matter
What's the first sin? Abeg una enter house!!!! If a married woman with 3 children, planning to have a 4th one is raped and gets pregnant, she should go for keeping the baby too, abi? Single people are not left out o. Nor let anybody deceive you then later you come go drown the small pikin for river o! Anyway, the person should take morning-after pill. People wen form holy pass, if you discover the real them, no matter how you bad reach, you go feel say you still dey try.
I am simply going to voice out my opinion on this because most of the comments i've seen here are downright IDIOTIC and borderline RETARDED. To those saying aborting it is an absolute sin while reassuring yourself with whatever vague knowledge you think you know of the bible I say this; imagine having that baby and being reminded every single day of your life that the child exists of the circumstance in which the child was conceived. Then re evaluate your answer and not just succumb to the opinion of another man. You are an individual think for yourself and form your own opinions. The words of a pastor/prophet/man of God is not Absolute.
this my first comment ever but I was touched to share my story cos it will be of benefit to some pple who care to learn from people mistakes, abortion is a sin and a sacrilege no matter the situation i was 16 when I took the life of this innocent baby in my womb just to please pple and my family so they wnt feel I had a baby out of wedlock, just to cover up my shame,believe me no sinner will go unpunished GOd wil surely give it back to d person one way or d other thru marriage or some other ways and show his mercy later,just for us to know d worth of a child,later at 20 I got married to dis guy thinking all is well, to my surprise I stayed for 15 years childless i went to d hospital but nothing was diagnose, words and tears cld nt explain wat I went thru I saw hell cos all d 4 four women married in that family could not conceive, God knows the family I entered for marriage were under a curse but he took me to d family just for me to pay for wat I did in d past,I was ready to do anything to have a child of my own, dere is no manner of prayers,fasting and commitment I did nt evolve wit the lord, for him to show me mercy and give me a child but evrytin prove abortive, at dat point I was lik I wished I kept dis child I aborted many years ago is just a matter of time tongue wil stop waging but at least everyone wil know I was once a mother,but to GOD BE D GLORY today am in the states cos I separated from him cos of Some unbearable issues we were havin and I got married to someone else as am writing my faithful God has shown me mercy and opened my womb naturally wit0ut the help of IVF, am now a proud mother of a boy and my joy has become full, GOd knows the best for us but because of our sins he takes us to a place of pain and regret that will make us pay for our sins and later embrace us again as his children so that we can appreciate watever gift he gave us in d past no matter how it was conceived, beloved no matter how a child is born it is a gift from God and a mothers pride, time shall tell just keep moving and be strong everything will turn out for your good I strongly believe, it is well wit us.
Any great kid that would have come forth from rape, sorry o. You were aborted and so we can never know. You may equally have been a ruffian, the cause of your mother's death. What we never know, we never know. And so, no assumptions. If Nigerians see free money to steal, they will steal. Even the best of Christians. And here we are talking about Christianity and rape abortions. Let that sleeping dog lie.
Whoever listens to these holier than thou is on her own. You will see the very same person who gave that advice do the opposite if it happens to her. And then you will feel the pain of not having followed your mind. Una try well well o! Keep the baby my a..! The bible says.... No male should have a say in this if he wants to quote the bible.
Linda, comments for this your blog don spoil the few spellings wen I know before. Everybody here like Hippocrates so much satay dem dey spell hypocrite as hypocrate. I even hope say hypocrite na d correct spelling. I think tay take bring out this spelling because I nor see dictionary. E too much. Wetin!
Those in support of Chris Oyakhilome, have they actually wondered why their spiritual leader (I'm not sure what kind of spirit is leading him) did not deem it fit to educate his congregation that in the event of rape, they should immediately go to the hospital?
Because if in his worldly wisdom of advocating a choice to abort in the case of rape, he didn't realise that once you go to the hospital, the doctors actually give medication to ensure pregnancy does not occur from the horrible experience (this is not abortion) and also give other medication to prevent sexually transmitted disease, this man is not sound.
Most of those yarning dust saying the woman should be able to abort have never experienced rape: I have, I didn't get pregnant because I went to the hospital and was given all sorts of medication immediately so I didn't have to commit sin by aborting. Women also lose pregnancies while married and have to abort the dead foetus- abortion isn't a thing you take lightly neither is it an easy thing to do, so why wait till you are pregnant to go through another harrowing experience of abortion after being raped????
Like I said before, if he's advocating a choice of abortion, which quack doctor will help them perform the abortion, considering that once the rape victim waits till she gets pregnant, no registered doctor will agree to do abortion for her.
I don't like tb Joshua either because he and his fellow brother are fake pastors. If Chris Oyakhilome didn't believe in Joshua, he wouldn't have allowed him pray for him those years ago: birds of a feather
My dear, you need to be in spirit to understand things of the spirit. Double sin he meant in this context is 1. Rapist - sin 2. Abortion - sin.. Just like, 2 wrongs don't make a right.
My issue is that T.B.Joshua said it's a double sin....so...did the girl first sin by getting raped?.....I agree that you should not kill...as it is said in the bible...but everybody who us shouting. get raped and pregnant first. If he is Insinuating that getting raped is a sin...THAT IS RUBBISH OF THE HIGHEST ORDER....The sin is on the part of the rapist not the victim.
Α̲̅πδ pls linda U̶̲̥̅̊ have to be careful also, I luv U̶̲̥̅̊ §Ãµ much cos wen it comes to d work U̶̲̥̅̊ deliver, but pls take U̶̲̥̅̊Ʀ time to think wen it come to men of God. Say it d way U̶̲̥̅̊ hrd it directly 4rm d source. Pls be careful Α̲̅πδ say hello to sandra 4 M̶̲̅ε̲̣̣̣̥. U̶̲̥̅̊ guys re grooving miami beach now. I envy U̶̲̥̅̊ sha
When linda ran d story first I was quiet, but now anoda man of God came to contersize dis I had to react, TB Α̲̅πδ chris re nt on same level wen it comes to understanding d word, pastor chris takes his time to explain d word i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ accordance wiv his level of intellect. Α̲̅πδ wen I watched d video he never said abortion is d right approach, §Ãµ pls I ƙϞφw̶̲̥̅̊ am catholic but we shud get d facts b4 talking carelessly. They re both men of God Α̲̅πδ shud be treated wif respect. Α̲̅πδ I expect TB as a man of God nt to come delibrating on same topic cos he shud even learn 4rm pastor chris cos he is a teacher. Α̲̅πδ all U̶̲̥̅̊ killing urselves here saying U̶̲̥̅̊ re followers of these men of God, "did they teach U̶̲̥̅̊ to curse urselves d way U̶̲̥̅̊ all re doing here"? Pls don't let sentiments cloud U̶̲̥̅̊Ʀ judgements Α̲̅πδ beware of men of God fracas its dangerous.
Linda, you should not be comparing Pastors, they only give opinions based on their understanding;they are not God. The decision to abort or keep a pregnancy from rape solely depends on the 'abused'. For those of you insulting and judging the Pastors, who are you to judge them. I hope you don't beg any of them for water when u rot in hell.
abortion is a sin. Wot if dat is d only child u were gona give birth to in ur stay on dis earth? Afta u get maried witout an issue, u wil start blaming devil nd u 4got dat u terminated d only one dat God gave u. So, pls no mata d circumstance, dnt abort dat child nd God wil see such person thru.
@ brezzy, I agree wit none of them. But ur statement shows total agreement wit dat of d prophet, or are u tryin 2 complicate issues? Am nt a fan of TB Joshua, but I tink I support him on dis 1.
raped is very traumatic, nobody wish to experience it. but whatever that happens has a reason, b4 that child was formed God already knew. he said he knows us b4 we are conceived. so nothing happens to us without his knowledge. i ve hard several news where a girl was raped and she got pregnant at the end of the day, she had a miscarriage or the baby dies, it is not in our hands to take that decision. we shud always let God's perfect will to be done. he knows the ending from the beginning.#myopinion#
How many of you can allow ur wife, sister or daughter to carry pregnancy out of rape and av d child? Let's be real in live nd on d social media too bcuz all d comment am reading here is just base on hypocrisy. God bless u all
You are a fool, has he deceived u or any of ur house hold. I hope u get raped soon and become pregnant, so u will know how it feels. FYI he said the lady should decide on what to do, he never used the word kill
Well done, u dat knows all the basic biblical knowledge, if u are a female, i hope u get raped soon and become preg, if u are a male, then someone close to u,
"Hope ur daughter gets raped and bc preg." Not that ur miserable hope out into the ether can have any effect; what a sicko thot to respond with. What did his dau ever do to u to give u cause to hate her so? She is not responsible for what her father says. U r despicable even for a pro-abortion babyhating leftist.
So, "8:10am," u think handicapped people should all be killed? Ur a good Nazi. Margaret Sanger (founder Planned Parenthood) and her disciple Adolf would be proud of u.
The rapist is the sinner, not the victim. Often the victim is guilty of other sins that put her in a vulnerable situation but she is not guilty of her rape. Only the rapist is guilty of the sin and crime of rape. No matter what she did or didn't she didn't make him rape her. If she kills her baby - embryo, fetus, whatever stage of development her baby is in - or hires a professional babykiller, she is now a murderess, guilty of the greatest sin one person can inflict on another. A sin worse than the rape, for the rapist did not murder her.
If a baby has already been conceived in her uterine (Fallopian) tube, pregnancy has begun. Anything done to stop it will cause the baby to die. If she has not ovulated, a contraception drug can be administered but most women do not know that they have ovulated for some time afterward. So chances are, if she was nearing ovulation, she is just as likely to have ovulated already. Dr. Seuss' wisdom: "Tiny people are people too." (From memory)
I don't know the circumstances of my conception. From what I know of the world, almost certainly one or more of my ancestresses conceived my ancestor or ancestors in rape. By this time practically everyone today is descended from women who became pregnant by rape and carried to term (gave birth).
Practically everyone in the world is descended from bastards. When armies sweep thru a country they rape all the women and girls from babies to ancient great-grandmothers. When East and West Pakistan separated into Bangladesh and Pakistan the Pak troops raped all the Bangladeshi women and girls they could find. Over 200,000 pregnancies resulted. Most were born. Just 1 example. Genetic mapping shows that Europeans have Mongol genes from the Mongol invasions.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 290 of 290Beats me, now I understand why why nigerians are so backwards, still so much to learn. I guess well be seeing more babies in the canal, this man goes abt preaching poison and its funny how many ppl fall for it. Hw can anyone with a brain think so irrationally?. Kids get raped n knocked up, some get raped by their own fathers n/or relative. Other get ganged rape...all with posibility that the child will be born with a disease/defect. someone on here admitted to hv aborted a fetus as a result of rape...yet says she agrees with tb joshua gullible nigerians.
I agree with him on this topic. Also, if God did not want that child to be born, that rape would not have led to pregnancy.
Oluchi Effiom you're the biggest and dumbest fool ever for u to have said the catholic church is an occultic church.. The catholic church will never support abortion unlike that your Christ embassy that promotes abortions and divorce.. Anuofia!
Ok sin is sin so how about other form of sin like lies n deception! People of this world and hypocrisy. All I kno is we have a GrCious God whom cares about us making heaven than raising standards that'll take us to hell. A doctors diffinition of abortion clearly differs 4rm an average persons understanding on that. We are just getting unnecessarily emotional on this topic. God looks at the heart of man not the law of life or even bible cuz even bible has phases and at the later phase which is 2day is grace bound. If we notice our babies and children could sometimes be extremely selfish and I don't think any1 here will say they're goin 2 he'll is d sounds comes now. So many tins of this world are God matters not human feelings. Let's not condemn these great Men of 2day whom God is using as well as any other person. SHAWN
GBEMMI< GOD BLESS YOU!!!!> You are the only rational human I have met on this blog! Our Nigerian minds are so lazy that it becomes the law because a "Man of God" said so. Imagine the trauma of being gang raped and pregnant and then keeping the baby; easier said and done! We need to mentally mature in Nigeria before anything changes. We are possessed by the demon called "religion".
anonymous 1:55pm your very stupid for saying dat. is linda that I blame not you.
Quiet Mr. T. B...
Define sin for us, according to the Bible...
And let us measure abortion against that definition!
Well pastor or no pastor what i feel is killing a child(abortion) is so wrong, that my own point of view.,those that were rape are the ones that knows how it feels and know the next step.,but what we should put in mind is that great kids could come out from rape..may God give us his wisdom cos he is the only one that knows right from wrong
Jasmyn you don't have life apart from blogging and your the most stupid and worthless person in this blog.go get a life
mmababy said...
Jasmyn you don't have life apart from blogging and your the most stupid and worthless person in this blog.go get a life
I strongly agree with prophet TB Joshua,a sin is a sin for example after been raped,u got pregnant and you were going to commit an abortion and u got a message from God that the child you are about to get rid off is going to be extremely successful,tell me are you still gonna carry on with your plans of getting rid of the baby?hell no you won't . same thing goes to stealing some people steal for good reason for instance trying to pay the bill of a sick dieing mother at the hospital from a wicked wealthy uncle that has refuse to help,that doesn't make it right,it all balls down to stealing and in the eyes of God it's a sin,everyone should learn how to carry their cross that's what comes with life,Life is deeper than it present itself....
Who is the dumbing,do you understand the meaning of Abortion!killing is a sin and abortion is depriving a child the right to live,it's killing your own flesh and blood so yes it is in the bible.
Its indeed dicey but y is no one advising dt any raped victim shld visit a hospital as soon as possible to flush thr womb so as t prevent unwanted pregnancies? Slikky
agree with my papa tb joshua bless yu dad
So if my husband rapes me and I become pregnant, then I should abort? Abortion is a sin.
Pastor Chris, be very careful..... do not disgrace your anointing.......
U have committed a sin by ur statement, who are u to judge if someone will b in hell....i pity u,read ur bible,d person dat a judged a man if God in d bible,what happened to d person?.... . Go n read ur bible
Men will continue to legislate what they think is right for the body of women forgetting that throughout history, they have been embarrassingly wrong ALL the time. No woman asks to be raped and having to live with and love a constant reminder of such unrivaled trauma ALL YOUR DAYS is something only someone who can't put themselves in the shoes of someone who has been violated can say.That is why TB Joshua will say it is a "DOUBLE SIN" because in his warped understanding, being raped is something God holds against you as a sin. When he is raped, he can choose not to wash up and may even give his violator a kiss. Don't be so arrogant as to legislate morality from your narrow world view.
Men will continue to legislate what they think is right for the body of women forgetting that throughout history, they have been embarrassingly wrong ALL the time. No woman asks to be raped and having to live with and love a constant reminder of such unrivaled trauma ALL YOUR DAYS is something only someone who can't put themselves in the shoes of someone who has been violated can say.That is why TB Joshua will say it is a "DOUBLE SIN" because in his warped understanding, being raped is something God holds against you as a sin. When he is raped, he can choose not to wash up and may even give his violator a kiss. Don't be so arrogant as to legislate morality from your narrow world view.
Calling a man of God "foolish" can be deadly. Be warned
what if u go ahead for abortion and u lost ur life? what if u pray to God for de baby to know Him, for de baby to become somebody dat will tell people dat Jesus is the giver of life.......
You are stupid, must u experience everything to know about it, haven't you heard of something called wisdom from God which is greater than knowledge. Pick up your bible or shut up! Ignorance at its best!
Abortion is justified in cases of rape Abortion in cases of rape is justified. Pregnancy is no doubt a life-changing experience, and along with the physical burden, there are strong psychological and social burdens. A woman has a right to choose what to do with her body, and preventing a completely unwanted pregnancy is a fair option. Women should not feel shamed or pressured into keeping a child just to satisfy the moral or ethical standards of others who are judgemental but have not experienced the same situation.No. Nobody should be forced to carry a child brought on them by rape. Some people aren't mentally strong enough to go through nine months of pregnancy after the traumatizing experience of rape. And let's not forget about society. Let's be honest, when we see a prenant single woman, we think 'whore'. We do not stop to try and understand them at all, we judge.
Adoption takes a really long time. Sometimes it takes years for a couple to be cleared for adoption. Why would you put a rape victim through nine months of pregnancy just to give the child away? So much emotional truama.
People, sin is not stronger than the blood of Jesus.... stop this sin sin syndrome.... think right once and talk righteousness more haba......
its a personal decision. when the pregnancy is still in very early stages, i think to abort it is best but we all know that its illegal in Nigeria.
ALL OF U SAYING ABORTION IS MURDER............ IS IT ALSO MURDER WHEN U HAVE TO TERMINATE A PREGNANCY TO SAVE A MOTHER'S LIFE?
IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN RAPED AND PREGNANT, PLS SHUT THE HELL UP
ALL OF U SAYING ABORTION IS MURDER............ IS IT ALSO MURDER WHEN U HAVE TO TERMINATE A PREGNANCY TO SAVE A MOTHER'S LIFE?
IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN RAPED AND PREGNANT, PLS SHUT THE HELL UP
God blessed Linda for hardwork. Park well block head and keep worshipping pastors.
And wetin cum concern catholic church wt ds naa..Do nt criticize any church..Ode! ! !
a lady was raped then she kills what's worse?...how can you bear the child of a rapist you say?...how can you marry a killer?...rape and killing which is worse...Jesus said let the children come to me...if u can't create life you shouldn't destroy one...not to talk about killing an innocent child
All you clamouring that abortion is a sin, I want you to put yourself in the shoes of a rape victim. Do u think is easy carrying that bastard in your womb for 9 months and also bear the trauma that comes with it for the rest of life. Have all forgotten u that even God killed a child that David had wrongly with another persons wife in 2 Samuel 12:15-19, Now how do u judge that, do u call that a Wicked God. There are so many things we humans can't judge except God alone. For me I pitch my tent with pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Keeping such baby will create more pains upon pains
What about the rapists? What's their sin level?
Let God be the judge in this matter ......
To a certain level of degree, both pastors are right but on the other hand wrong also. Religiously abortion is a sin but logically, abortion from rape can be considered right. It's down to the victim of rape's personal views. Pastors opinion shouldn't be regarded in this matter
Let God be the judge in this matter ......
To a certain level of degree, both pastors are right but on the other hand wrong also. Religiously abortion is a sin but logically, abortion from rape can be considered right. It's down to the victim of rape's personal views. Pastors opinion shouldn't be regarded in this matter
Let God be the judge in this matter ......
Let God be the judge in this matter ......
What's the first sin? Abeg una enter house!!!! If a married woman with 3 children, planning to have a 4th one is raped and gets pregnant, she should go for keeping the baby too, abi? Single people are not left out o. Nor let anybody deceive you then later you come go drown the small pikin for river o! Anyway, the person should take morning-after pill. People wen form holy pass, if you discover the real them, no matter how you bad reach, you go feel say you still dey try.
I am simply going to voice out my opinion on this because most of the comments i've seen here are downright IDIOTIC and borderline RETARDED. To those saying aborting it is an absolute sin while reassuring yourself with whatever vague knowledge you think you know of the bible I say this; imagine having that baby and being reminded every single day of your life that the child exists of the circumstance in which the child was conceived. Then re evaluate your answer and not just succumb to the opinion of another man. You are an individual think for yourself and form your own opinions. The words of a pastor/prophet/man of God is not Absolute.
this my first comment ever but I was touched to share my story cos it will be of benefit to some pple who care to learn from people mistakes, abortion is a sin and a sacrilege no matter the situation i was 16 when I took the life of this innocent baby in my womb just to please pple and my family so they wnt feel I had a baby out of wedlock, just to cover up my shame,believe me no sinner will go unpunished GOd wil surely give it back to d person one way or d other thru marriage or some other ways and show his mercy later,just for us to know d worth of a child,later at 20 I got married to dis guy thinking all is well, to my surprise I stayed for 15 years childless i went to d hospital but nothing was diagnose, words and tears cld nt explain wat I went thru I saw hell cos all d 4 four women married in that family could not conceive, God knows the family I entered for marriage were under a curse but he took me to d family just for me to pay for wat I did in d past,I was ready to do anything to have a child of my own, dere is no manner of prayers,fasting and commitment I did nt evolve wit the lord, for him to show me mercy and give me a child but evrytin prove abortive, at dat point I was lik I wished I kept dis child I aborted many years ago is just a matter of time tongue wil stop waging but at least everyone wil know I was once a mother,but to GOD BE D GLORY today am in the states cos I separated from him cos of Some unbearable issues we were havin and I got married to someone else as am writing my faithful God has shown me mercy and opened my womb naturally wit0ut the help of IVF, am now a proud mother of a boy and my joy has become full, GOd knows the best for us but because of our sins he takes us to a place of pain and regret that will make us pay for our sins and later embrace us again as his children so that we can appreciate watever gift he gave us in d past no matter how it was conceived, beloved no matter how a child is born it is a gift from God and a mothers pride, time shall tell just keep moving and be strong everything will turn out for your good I strongly believe, it is well wit us.
Any great kid that would have come forth from rape, sorry o. You were aborted and so we can never know. You may equally have been a ruffian, the cause of your mother's death. What we never know, we never know. And so, no assumptions. If Nigerians see free money to steal, they will steal. Even the best of Christians. And here we are talking about Christianity and rape abortions. Let that sleeping dog lie.
Whoever listens to these holier than thou is on her own. You will see the very same person who gave that advice do the opposite if it happens to her. And then you will feel the pain of not having followed your mind. Una try well well o! Keep the baby my a..! The bible says.... No male should have a say in this if he wants to quote the bible.
Linda, comments for this your blog don spoil the few spellings wen I know before. Everybody here like Hippocrates so much satay dem dey spell hypocrite as hypocrate. I even hope say hypocrite na d correct spelling. I think tay take bring out this spelling because I nor see dictionary. E too much. Wetin!
Those in support of Chris Oyakhilome, have they actually wondered why their spiritual leader (I'm not sure what kind of spirit is leading him) did not deem it fit to educate his congregation that in the event of rape, they should immediately go to the hospital?
Because if in his worldly wisdom of advocating a choice to abort in the case of rape, he didn't realise that once you go to the hospital, the doctors actually give medication to ensure pregnancy does not occur from the horrible experience (this is not abortion) and also give other medication to prevent sexually transmitted disease, this man is not sound.
Most of those yarning dust saying the woman should be able to abort have never experienced rape: I have, I didn't get pregnant because I went to the hospital and was given all sorts of medication immediately so I didn't have to commit sin by aborting. Women also lose pregnancies while married and have to abort the dead foetus- abortion isn't a thing you take lightly neither is it an easy thing to do, so why wait till you are pregnant to go through another harrowing experience of abortion after being raped????
Like I said before, if he's advocating a choice of abortion, which quack doctor will help them perform the abortion, considering that once the rape victim waits till she gets pregnant, no registered doctor will agree to do abortion for her.
I don't like tb Joshua either because he and his fellow brother are fake pastors. If Chris Oyakhilome didn't believe in Joshua, he wouldn't have allowed him pray for him those years ago: birds of a feather
Yes he is a native doctor kos God uses him to heal people of their infirmities...touch not my anointed...
U harsh oh,lolz
My dear, you need to be in spirit to understand things of the spirit.
Double sin he meant in this context is
1. Rapist - sin
2. Abortion - sin..
Just like, 2 wrongs don't make a right.
The rapist committed the first sin...dnt make it double by aborting an innocent child.
My issue is that T.B.Joshua said it's a double sin....so...did the girl first sin by getting raped?.....I agree that you should not kill...as it is said in the bible...but everybody who us shouting. get raped and pregnant first. If he is Insinuating that getting raped is a sin...THAT IS RUBBISH OF THE HIGHEST ORDER....The sin is on the part of the rapist not the victim.
What's the first sin?....being raped?...please learn to speak English....unless you actually think getting raped is a sin.
U are an asshole..
Linda u av set up dis question for pple to insult men of God.u try
They are both idiots
When you find yourself in a situation like dat its wen u will know wassup we only pray to God not to allow us face such
Α̲̅πδ pls linda U̶̲̥̅̊ have to be careful also, I luv U̶̲̥̅̊ §Ãµ much cos wen it comes to d work U̶̲̥̅̊ deliver, but pls take U̶̲̥̅̊Ʀ time to think wen it come to men of God. Say it d way U̶̲̥̅̊ hrd it directly 4rm d source. Pls be careful Α̲̅πδ say hello to sandra 4 M̶̲̅ε̲̣̣̣̥. U̶̲̥̅̊ guys re grooving miami beach now. I envy U̶̲̥̅̊ sha
When linda ran d story first I was quiet, but now anoda man of God came to contersize dis I had to react, TB Α̲̅πδ chris re nt on same level wen it comes to understanding d word, pastor chris takes his time to explain d word i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ accordance wiv his level of intellect. Α̲̅πδ wen I watched d video he never said abortion is d right approach, §Ãµ pls I ƙϞφw̶̲̥̅̊ am catholic but we shud get d facts b4 talking carelessly. They re both men of God Α̲̅πδ shud be treated wif respect. Α̲̅πδ I expect TB as a man of God nt to come delibrating on same topic cos he shud even learn 4rm pastor chris cos he is a teacher. Α̲̅πδ all U̶̲̥̅̊ killing urselves here saying U̶̲̥̅̊ re followers of these men of God, "did they teach U̶̲̥̅̊ to curse urselves d way U̶̲̥̅̊ all re doing here"? Pls don't let sentiments cloud U̶̲̥̅̊Ʀ judgements Α̲̅πδ beware of men of God fracas its dangerous.
Linda, you should not be comparing Pastors, they only give opinions based on their understanding;they are not God. The decision to abort or keep a pregnancy from rape solely depends on the 'abused'.
For those of you insulting and judging the Pastors, who are you to judge them. I hope you don't beg any of them for water when u rot in hell.
So shut up.
I can't help but laff! Let's see who ends up in hell
How exactly is it a double sin? U mean a girl committed a sin for being raped? I need to understand this please.
You just agreed with one of them
True
abortion is a sin. Wot if dat is d only child u were gona give birth to in ur stay on dis earth? Afta u get maried witout an issue, u wil start blaming devil nd u 4got dat u terminated d only one dat God gave u. So, pls no mata d circumstance, dnt abort dat child nd God wil see such person thru.
@ brezzy, I agree wit none of them. But ur statement shows total agreement wit dat of d prophet, or are u tryin 2 complicate issues?
@ brezzy, I agree wit none of them. But ur statement shows total agreement wit dat of d prophet, or are u tryin 2 complicate issues? Am nt a fan of TB Joshua, but I tink I support him on dis 1.
T.B joshua is rigth
TB Joshua is right
raped is very traumatic, nobody wish to experience it. but whatever that happens has a reason, b4 that child was formed God already knew. he said he knows us b4 we are conceived. so nothing happens to us without his knowledge. i ve hard several news where a girl was raped and she got pregnant at the end of the day, she had a miscarriage or the baby dies, it is not in our hands to take that decision. we shud always let God's perfect will to be done. he knows the ending from the beginning.#myopinion#
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Diamonds,walaiiiii,u are an extremely stupid,senseless person to say God allows one to be raped.infact,if u don't know what to say shut ur dirty mouth
AMEN OOOOOO
How many of you can allow ur wife, sister or daughter to carry pregnancy out of rape and av d child? Let's be real in live nd on d social media too bcuz all d comment am reading here is just base on hypocrisy. God bless u all
am not impressed whether he agrees or not he does stage managed demonic miracles.....i do not believe in TB Joshuas source of miracles, never.........
Let's not judge any of them. But TB J is right.
WHAT MAKES IT DOUBLE SIN.ABORTION IS ONE SIN .SO IF SHE IS RAPED NA SHE COMIT DAT 1 TOO.NA WA O
Did you read his comment, Mr saint. What he said is that the lady has a right to make her choice he didnt mention kill
You are a fool, has he deceived u or any of ur house hold. I hope u get raped soon and become pregnant, so u will know how it feels. FYI he said the lady should decide on what to do, he never used the word kill
I pray u get raped soon and become pregnant
Well done, u dey talk like say na u holy pass.
Well done, u dat knows all the basic biblical knowledge, if u are a female, i hope u get raped soon and become preg, if u are a male, then someone close to u,
It is u i pity more cos what Pst Chris said is thatthe lady has a right to make a choice, he didnt state a yes or a no.
"Hope ur daughter gets raped and bc preg."
Not that ur miserable hope out into the ether can have any effect; what a sicko thot to respond with. What did his dau ever do to u to give u cause to hate her so? She is not responsible for what her father says. U r despicable even for a pro-abortion babyhating leftist.
So, "8:10am," u think handicapped people should all be killed? Ur a good Nazi. Margaret Sanger (founder Planned Parenthood) and her disciple Adolf would be proud of u.
More pro-abortion babyhating leftist bile spewed forth. How INTOLERANT of anyone whose opinion differs from urs. Typical Prog. Socialist
The rapist is the sinner, not the victim. Often the victim is guilty of other sins that put her in a vulnerable situation but she is not guilty of her rape. Only the rapist is guilty of the sin and crime of rape. No matter what she did or didn't she didn't make him rape her.
If she kills her baby - embryo, fetus, whatever stage of development her baby is in - or hires a professional babykiller, she is now a murderess, guilty of the greatest sin one person can inflict on another. A sin worse than the rape, for the rapist did not murder her.
If a baby has already been conceived in her uterine (Fallopian) tube, pregnancy has begun. Anything done to stop it will cause the baby to die.
If she has not ovulated, a contraception drug can be administered but most women do not know that they have ovulated for some time afterward. So chances are, if she was nearing ovulation, she is just as likely to have ovulated already.
Dr. Seuss' wisdom: "Tiny people are people too." (From memory)
The man commits rape: sin
The woman commits or hires murder: sin
The woman lacks natural affection for the fruit of her womb: sin
2 sins, 3 sins
I was an unborn baby once upon a time, so it's my business too.
I don't know the circumstances of my conception. From what I know of the world, almost certainly one or more of my ancestresses conceived my ancestor or ancestors in rape.
By this time practically everyone today is descended from women who became pregnant by rape and carried to term (gave birth).
Practically everyone in the world is descended from bastards.
When armies sweep thru a country they rape all the women and girls from babies to ancient great-grandmothers.
When East and West Pakistan separated into Bangladesh and Pakistan the Pak troops raped all the Bangladeshi women and girls they could find. Over 200,000 pregnancies resulted. Most were born.
Just 1 example. Genetic mapping shows that Europeans have Mongol genes from the Mongol invasions.
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