Dear LIB readers; my fiance hates the doctrine of my church
From a female LIB reader
I and my fiance have been together for almost three years. I love him so much and I believe he loves me too. I'm just worried about something if we get married. I'm a winner (living faith church) and
you know we have our blessed mantle, anointing oil, feet washing
service and all of that. He on the other hand has never been a fan of
winners. Now he's saying anointing oil and mantle will never be allowed
in his house. He's reason is actually very clear... "Anything else apart
from the name of Jesus is not allowed".
He says we are all children of
God and should connect to him directly and not via a mantle or oil. In
fact he calls all of those things idols because people tend to forget
about calling to God directly and reach out to those things. I have
tried my best to convince him and tell him it doesn't mean you don't
believe God or don't call him directly if you use those things. I have
tried telling him I'll use them but he's permitted not to use them and
he refused saying it will not be allowed in his house. Only the name of
Jesus is allowed. Kindly let me know what LIB readers think of this and
what I can do.
Truth is, after u get married to him; you'll end up going to his church so why is it difficult for u to understand with him? If u love him, then listen to him cos he's very right on this....
Do you think this is the best medium to discuss such an issue and seek advice? Are you really a 'WINNER' or just the 'mixed multitude'? Don't you have Pastors in the church you can go to or even his own Pastor to seek counsel? This is highly disappointing, if you are serious about getting good counsel, seek in in the right channels...
it's better dis is coming up now and not wen u've got deceived or deceived him. i will advice u quit the relationship. fine it's not easy, but it's better u go tru the pain dan to enslave ur self for ever. who says he actually wants the relationship. what is wrong in anointing oil and mantle. he's just cooking up excuses to discharge u and have found no fault in you but decided to use this as an excuse. there are families where the father is a muslim and the mother is a xtian and are leaving happily. my sista, the truth is bitter. he might have something evil that ur anointing oil and mantle is damaging or might have been doing something evil to u; expecting result and not working. u better run for ur life!!!
Ma dear d man s d head of d huz. Evn d Bible says wife honour ur husbnd. If he doesn't ageee with d oil n mantle dn let go of it cuz he doesn't believe in dm. U cn still reach God without those thgs u v ur Bible use it instead of d oil, mantle etc. First day I attended winners I didnt agree with d feeth washg cuz I didnt believe in it.
Pray seriously about it,because am also in the same shoes with you,but my dear we will attend our hubby church,nd mine attend redeem so na there I dey go,nd I can still attend my former church programmes. Jst pray
People keep saying the name of God. It is the name of JESUS.
My dear, if you firmly believe in your anointing oil and mantle, keep them in your house.
Just don't let your husband know where they are kept.
There will come a time when they'll be of use, and your husband's eyes will be open.
The whole issue here - to me - is one of compromise. I'm sure he knew your beliefs before proposing to you. But he had the African man way of thinking and thought you would simply bow to his commands and demands.
Do you know that Jesus allowed himself to be anointed?? I can't remember the passage but the story of the woman who wiped Jesus' feet with her hair. The woman anointed His feet first with oil and worshipped Him.
That passage clearly shows that there is nothing wrong with anointing oil. If there is, Jesus would have condemned her right there on the spot. He would have told her to simply worship Him without all that drama. Jesus' response to the disciples who condemned her is also worth noting.
People keep saying the name of God. It is the name of JESUS.
My dear, if you firmly believe in your anointing oil and mantle, keep them in your house.
Just don't let your husband know where they are kept.
There will come a time when they'll be of use, and your husband's eyes will be open.
The whole issue here - to me - is one of compromise. I'm sure he knew your beliefs before proposing to you. But he had the African man way of thinking and thought you would simply bow to his commands and demands.
Do you know that Jesus allowed himself to be anointed?? I can't remember the passage but the story of the woman who wiped Jesus' feet with her hair. The woman anointed His feet first with oil and then worshipped Him.
That passage clearly shows that there is nothing wrong with anointing oil. If there is, Jesus would have condemned her right there on the spot. He would have told her to simply worship Him without all that drama. Jesus' response to the disciples who condemned her is also worth noting.
U funny ohhh!!! why are you just disgracing your self by saying you are a winner,cos a winner will know wat is obtainable and how to handle such situations without coming to LIB. The Word of God been preached there has not entered into you to know your stand and worth. And the efficacy of those mysteries.So pls go back and think to know wat you want. God help you.
SOME GROUP OF CHRISTIAN CHURCHES ARE NOW WORSHIP GOD LIKE THE WAY PAGAN ARE WORSHIPING THEIR IDOL. SOME OF THEM ARE RACIST IN WHICH THEY DAMAGE EACH OTHERS NAME, OR NOT WANTING TO MINGLE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
I THINK,IT IS TIME FOR PEOPLE TO JUST READ THEIR BIBLE AT HOME, OR LOOK AT THE CHRISTIAN PROGRAM ON THE TELEVISION, THERE ARE A LOT OF PROGRAM ON GOD CHANEL STATION SKY 580 TO 600.
OR TUBE ON YOUR LAPTOP.
EVERY SUNDAY I LISTEN TO THIS PROGRAM, AND READ MY BIBLE, I HAVE STOPS MAKING MYSELF MISERABLE GOING TO CHURCH.
GOD IS IN ALL OF US., IT IS NOT WHAT YOU BUY, AND HE DOES NOT WANT YOUR TEN PERCENT/ IDAMEWA TO DO SHOPPING AT HARROD.
MY DEAR GIRL, I WOULD ADVISE YOU TO DO AWAY WITH THIS MAN BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE, THINGS WILL NOT WORK OUT BETWEEN YOU TOO, IF YOU FORCE YOURSELF ON HIM , IT WOULD GET WORSE.
THE MARRIAGE WOULD DIE IN NO TIME. LOOK OUT FOR SOMEONE SUITABLE RATHER THAN LOOKING FOR LOVE ,
Biblically your husband is right. He speak and see the truth that most church goers cant see or want to address. Jesus is the only way to the father. He gave us the Holy Spirit for a reason. Take care Hun
@ blunt I wud ask u to pray for forgiveness for wat u just said cos u dare not talk ill abt any one bearing Gods servant whether he is called or not...leave God to b d judge before u bring condemnation to urself...winners chapel is not a CRIMINAL organization as u called it....using d oil or mantle or getting ur feet washed was praticed in d bible read ROM 2:28, exo 30:25, 1sam 10:1 also read john 13:3 - 10 ...get ur facts right b4 blabbing cos its written he who seeketh wisdom let him ask from d lord.... To my dear who posted d story, wat u need now is Divine direction from d holy spirit, pray abt it n ask For Gods leading in this matter, we r in a crucial stage in our life n d decision u take today can either make u or mare uu,....don't b moved by wat u see BT focus on God cos He only can change his mindset if truly he is ur hubby.....Heaven on earth greetings to u dear
@ Ben get ur facts right....don't say wat u don't knw cos u have mouth n have a techno fone wit free mb given to u by ur service provider.....when oyedepo was trekking, using a tortoise car to help people go to Church, wen he uses local lamb to conduct services in church ,wen he nuffin BT beleived in God where were uu....now he has searcheth for mysteries n divine secrets wit d help of d holy spirit, n God has blessed him in all things..don't underate God cos He said Seek ye first d kingdom of God n His righteousness n All things not little or small, He said All things shall b added unto uu...u can't serve God diligently n remain a pauper .so Mr Ben I supposed u shld learn to tame ur tongue b4 u bring condemnation to urself...Bless uu
Evn jesus used difft mediums to perform miracles....so wtf r u guyz sayin!!!mii dear move ahead oooo cos when u marry him...he'll tell u nt to go to chur ooo.
True Christians today do not bow down to idols of any kind. (1 John 5:21) Crucifixes, prayer beads, and images of saints do not make the Creator more accessible. They cannot intercede in our behalf. In the first century, Jesus taught his disciples the proper way to worship God when he said: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you ask anything in my name, I will do it.”—John 14:6, 14.
you either accept his preference or depart from him. this will evidently be a problem in the future eg. what church to go to and in what faith and path to raise your kids. my ex was redeem and i know how different in faith it was for both of us, one of the reasons we broke up. my current husband is my denomination and he is luckily very GOD fearing. if you cant stay away from your faith to please your spouse, i recommend you marry from your church
I have assumed that when if/when you get married to your fiance, you are expected to start worshiping in his church. The only area of concern is will you also be comfortable with his church way of worship? These "little" issues have a way of making relationships go astray. I am suggesting you and your fiance sit down and talk deeply about this area of concern if you really intend getting married. Ask God for wisdom, direction and patience on how to tackle it and move forward. Love alone will not sustain a relationship. I wish you well in whatever decision you take.
This reminds me of a man who said he will not accept any form of help during a flood that he believes God will save him until he drowned. It also reminds of the JWs and Scientologists who would not go to hospital or take medication or take blood transfusion, claiming that only the name of Jesus will save them. Or the man who refuses to use herbs believing all herbalist are fetish. Who made the plant or the oil that is prayed over. The Bible in the letter of James in chapter 5 says is anyone is sick, let him call the elders of the Church who will anoint him, and pray for him to get well. Those things in themselves without faith cannot heal but they have medicinal properties. As for the mantle of a thing... are trying to mimic the people who brought handkerchiefs and aprons and mantles to be touched by the apostles for healing?
If you know deep down then why don't you do something about it. If all you have is a feeling of closeness and not actual closeness (your words) then do something about it.
241 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 241 of 241Don't let oil and others to spoil your relationship with your man. Obey him and do the right thing, forget about others.But believein in God
You that is praying in the name of Mary nko? Don't come to lib and insult other doctrines
Hmmmmmmmm pastors in d house ur opinion
Truth is, after u get married to him; you'll end up going to his church so why is it difficult for u to understand with him? If u love him, then listen to him cos he's very right on this....
I love your comment. God bless you.
Best reply I've seen here.
IT IS WELL WE ALL WORSHIP THESAME GOD IF U LOVE HIM WHY NOT IT A NO GOING BACK SCHOOL OOO.
something will happen that will validate the ordinances he is despising.
please be very sure that he is truly born again.don't mind people that are talking
against winners chapel.one day they will all come over.peace to your.
Do you think this is the best medium to discuss such an issue and seek advice? Are you really a 'WINNER' or just the 'mixed multitude'? Don't you have Pastors in the church you can go to or even his own Pastor to seek counsel? This is highly disappointing, if you are serious about getting good counsel, seek in in the right channels...
it's better dis is coming up now and not wen u've got deceived or deceived him. i will advice u quit the relationship. fine it's not easy, but it's better u go tru the pain dan to enslave ur self for ever. who says he actually wants the relationship. what is wrong in anointing oil and mantle. he's just cooking up excuses to discharge u and have found no fault in you but decided to use this as an excuse. there are families where the father is a muslim and the mother is a xtian and are leaving happily. my sista, the truth is bitter. he might have something evil that ur anointing oil and mantle is damaging or might have been doing something evil to u; expecting result and not working. u better run for ur life!!!
Exactly my thought,or are u planning he follows u to ur church?
I jst saw no mantle in his house,is it dat u are already living with him?if yes dats whr u getting it all wrong cos u guys are nt married yet.
Ma dear d man s d head of d huz. Evn d Bible says wife honour ur husbnd. If he doesn't ageee with d oil n mantle dn let go of it cuz he doesn't believe in dm. U cn still reach God without those thgs u v ur Bible use it instead of d oil, mantle etc. First day I attended winners I didnt agree with d feeth washg cuz I didnt believe in it.
Pray seriously about it,because am also in the same shoes with you,but my dear we will attend our hubby church,nd mine attend redeem so na there I dey go,nd I can still attend my former church programmes. Jst pray
People keep saying the name of God. It is the name of JESUS.
My dear, if you firmly believe in your anointing oil and mantle, keep them in your house.
Just don't let your husband know where they are kept.
There will come a time when they'll be of use, and your husband's eyes will be open.
The whole issue here - to me - is one of compromise. I'm sure he knew your beliefs before proposing to you. But he had the African man way of thinking and thought you would simply bow to his commands and demands.
Do you know that Jesus allowed himself to be anointed?? I can't remember the passage but the story of the woman who wiped Jesus' feet with her hair. The woman anointed His feet first with oil and worshipped Him.
That passage clearly shows that there is nothing wrong with anointing oil. If there is, Jesus would have condemned her right there on the spot. He would have told her to simply worship Him without all that drama. Jesus' response to the disciples who condemned her is also worth noting.
***Lush
People keep saying the name of God. It is the name of JESUS.
My dear, if you firmly believe in your anointing oil and mantle, keep them in your house.
Just don't let your husband know where they are kept.
There will come a time when they'll be of use, and your husband's eyes will be open.
The whole issue here - to me - is one of compromise. I'm sure he knew your beliefs before proposing to you. But he had the African man way of thinking and thought you would simply bow to his commands and demands.
Do you know that Jesus allowed himself to be anointed?? I can't remember the passage but the story of the woman who wiped Jesus' feet with her hair. The woman anointed His feet first with oil and then worshipped Him.
That passage clearly shows that there is nothing wrong with anointing oil. If there is, Jesus would have condemned her right there on the spot. He would have told her to simply worship Him without all that drama. Jesus' response to the disciples who condemned her is also worth noting.
***Lush
U funny ohhh!!! why are you just disgracing your self
by saying you are a winner,cos a winner will know wat is obtainable and how to handle such situations without coming to LIB. The Word of God been preached there has not entered into you to know your stand and worth. And the efficacy of those mysteries.So pls go back and think to know wat you want. God help you.
SOME GROUP OF CHRISTIAN CHURCHES ARE NOW WORSHIP GOD LIKE THE WAY PAGAN ARE WORSHIPING THEIR IDOL.
SOME OF THEM ARE RACIST IN WHICH THEY DAMAGE EACH OTHERS NAME, OR NOT WANTING TO MINGLE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
I THINK,IT IS TIME FOR PEOPLE TO JUST READ THEIR BIBLE AT HOME, OR LOOK AT THE CHRISTIAN PROGRAM ON THE TELEVISION, THERE ARE A LOT OF PROGRAM ON GOD CHANEL STATION SKY 580 TO 600.
OR TUBE ON YOUR LAPTOP.
EVERY SUNDAY I LISTEN TO THIS PROGRAM, AND READ MY BIBLE, I HAVE STOPS MAKING MYSELF MISERABLE GOING TO CHURCH.
GOD IS IN ALL OF US., IT IS NOT WHAT YOU BUY, AND HE DOES NOT WANT YOUR TEN PERCENT/ IDAMEWA TO DO SHOPPING AT HARROD.
MY DEAR GIRL, I WOULD ADVISE YOU TO DO AWAY WITH THIS MAN BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE, THINGS WILL NOT WORK OUT BETWEEN YOU TOO, IF YOU FORCE YOURSELF ON HIM , IT WOULD GET WORSE.
THE MARRIAGE WOULD DIE IN NO TIME. LOOK OUT FOR SOMEONE SUITABLE RATHER THAN LOOKING FOR LOVE ,
Gbamest!
Biblically your husband is right. He speak and see the truth that most church goers cant see or want to address. Jesus is the only way to the father. He gave us the Holy Spirit for a reason. Take care Hun
@ blunt I wud ask u to pray for forgiveness for wat u just said cos u dare not talk ill abt any one bearing Gods servant whether he is called or not...leave God to b d judge before u bring condemnation to urself...winners chapel is not a CRIMINAL organization as u called it....using d oil or mantle or getting ur feet washed was praticed in d bible read ROM 2:28, exo 30:25, 1sam 10:1 also read john 13:3 - 10 ...get ur facts right b4 blabbing cos its written he who seeketh wisdom let him ask from d lord....
To my dear who posted d story, wat u need now is Divine direction from d holy spirit, pray abt it n ask For Gods leading in this matter, we r in a crucial stage in our life n d decision u take today can either make u or mare uu,....don't b moved by wat u see BT focus on God cos He only can change his mindset if truly he is ur hubby.....Heaven on earth greetings to u dear
@ Ben get ur facts right....don't say wat u don't knw cos u have mouth n have a techno fone wit free mb given to u by ur service provider.....when oyedepo was trekking, using a tortoise car to help people go to Church, wen he uses local lamb to conduct services in church ,wen he nuffin BT beleived in God where were uu....now he has searcheth for mysteries n divine secrets wit d help of d holy spirit, n God has blessed him in all things..don't underate God cos He said Seek ye first d kingdom of God n His righteousness n All things not little or small, He said All things shall b added unto uu...u can't serve God diligently n remain a pauper .so Mr Ben I supposed u shld learn to tame ur tongue b4 u bring condemnation to urself...Bless uu
True talk @ annoymousanonymous 10:27
I wonder what she's even doing with u in d first place. this your grammar is nothing to write home about
Abeg quickly 'found' another fiance o
Desperado
Evn jesus used difft mediums to perform miracles....so wtf r u guyz sayin!!!mii dear move ahead oooo cos when u marry him...he'll tell u nt to go to chur ooo.
For real!!! I guess u r not cos we did a feet washing service tonight
WOFBI graduate and it's idolatry? ??? Am amazed at u. It's a biblical mystery ok! Read the scriptures
True Christians today do not bow down to idols of any kind. (1 John 5:21) Crucifixes, prayer beads, and images of saints do not make the Creator more accessible. They cannot intercede in our behalf. In the first century, Jesus taught his disciples the proper way to worship God when he said: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you ask anything in my name, I will do it.”—John 14:6, 14.
Acts
Well spoken
Anon 12:17,beautiful coment
Tot wen a girl gets married she lives her church to join her husband in his church.so y worry over notin.ur husbands pple shall b ur pple and his God shall b ur God isnt dt wat marriage entails? Abi after ur married both of u will fellowship in diff churches ?.frm wat i can see here dt ur fiancé is more of a true believer n a Christian dan u are.
NAMASTEY
Linda abeg you no get lie this time.... this is not an issue. The girl in question is not a true Christian. She never ready to marry hoohaa.
you either accept his preference or depart from him. this will evidently be a problem in the future eg. what church to go to and in what faith and path to raise your kids. my ex was redeem and i know how different in faith it was for both of us, one of the reasons we broke up. my current husband is my denomination and he is luckily very GOD fearing. if you cant stay away from your faith to please your spouse, i recommend you marry from your church
I have assumed that when if/when you get married to your fiance, you are expected to start worshiping in his church. The only area of concern is will you also be comfortable with his church way of worship? These "little" issues have a way of making relationships go astray. I am suggesting you and your fiance sit down and talk deeply about this area of concern if you really intend getting married. Ask God for wisdom, direction and patience on how to tackle it and move forward. Love alone will not sustain a relationship. I wish you well in whatever decision you take.
Your fiancé is 100% right, you need to study the Word of God of more so you can get to your fiancé level. his understanding of the truth is more advanced to yours
This reminds me of a man who said he will not accept any form of help during a flood that he believes God will save him until he drowned. It also reminds of the JWs and Scientologists who would not go to hospital or take medication or take blood transfusion, claiming that only the name of Jesus will save them. Or the man who refuses to use herbs believing all herbalist are fetish. Who made the plant or the oil that is prayed over. The Bible in the letter of James in chapter 5 says is anyone is sick, let him call the elders of the Church who will anoint him, and pray for him to get well. Those things in themselves without faith cannot heal but they have medicinal properties. As for the mantle of a thing... are trying to mimic the people who brought handkerchiefs and aprons and mantles to be touched by the apostles for healing?
Hahahahs... So true man
If you know deep down then why don't you do something about it. If all you have is a feeling of closeness and not actual closeness (your words) then do something about it.
When u get married to him, u will no longer go to your own church.
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