By now most of you must have heard about what's going on at the Deeper Christian Life Ministry but just in case you haven't heard/read any of it, let me summarize it.
The second son of the General-Superintendent of Deeper Life Pastor William Kumuyi got married on June 15th in Jamaica to a lady named Love Odih. A day later, photos from the wedding flooded the internet - and that was when trouble started.
The bride was accused of breaking the church's conservative dressing rules by wearing make-up, a fitted wedding dress, with see-through sleeves. (bride and groom pictured above. The photo on the right is the appropriate way to dress in the church).
Now, John and Love Kumuyi have been suspended by the leadership of the church for this despite the fact that the couple tendered an apology letter to the church. Continue...
The couple said:
“We unreservedly and wholeheartedly state that we did not intend that our acts or omissions will, in any way, undermine the great works that God has done through the Deeper Christian Life Ministry worldwide and more especially, through our Father in the Lord, the General Superintendent.We also use this medium to profusely and sincerely apologise to the General Superintendent for the embarrassment and heartaches our actions have caused him, more so that he had earlier declined to be at the events.”But the church wasn't having any of that (Here's where you ask 'what would Jesus do?) they still went ahead and suspended the couple from carrying out any activity in the church - an instruction that came from the GS himself, Pastor William Kumuyi. The church said:
“The church, Deeper Life, remains committed to the biblical practice and standard of almost 40 years Christian dressing and still remains and does not compromise on biblical Christian dressing. Hence, deviation warrants the displeasure and frown of God and the leadership of the church. John and Love are now under discipline"My problem with this is - You preach forgiveness but can't practice it! What do you guys think?
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Hiss...
D earth is sup 2 Gods n d fullnes thereof...God has made this world beautiful so dat xtains can enjoy it...jesus came 2 suffer so dat we can enjoy. This includes lukin good which in evri way helps boost our self esteem. biko wat is so wrong wiv d dress...
Linda, pls you're making a mistake. Forgiveness doesn't take away punishment for sins committed. Bible says though hand join in hand no sinner will go unpunished (Proverb 11:21). David committed adultery with Bathsheba, Uriah's wife though he asked for forgiveness from God yet God allowed the child which was the product of that sin to die(2 samuel 11). Remember, God punished Eli for sins committed by his sons. And if the law of ur country will never allow an accused to go free simply because he asked for forgiveness God's standard will not either. Moreso, it's good to place hot iron on yourself first so that you ll know how others feel when you place it on them.
Hahahahahahaha @ the pix of how they're suppose to dress. Abeg abeg abeg o, so lace na sign true true for deeper life? Haba there's noting wrong wit Loves dressing na, after all all of the private parts are duely covered, mbok na wao! And even after apologising they still can't forgive them, thank God say man no be God o, e for really be o.
self righteousness! these ppl trust in their own righteousness leaving the righteousness of God. christainty is not abt covering oneself frm head to toe,its about purity of the heart,faith in God and love unfeigned for one another.
Well, I don't think its an issue of preaching forgiveness and not practicing it. The groom had every opportunity to avoid d problem in d first place knowing his background and church values. I support his Father's action if this report is anything to go by cause twil show others dat if he didn't spare his son, theirs won't be an exception. If he had forgiven dem, tongues still would hav wagged. Case closed!!
Dem do well, the men should look sharp and clean on their wedding day, while the women look like they are widows, sorry .........older widows Lol!
We better shut up before angel from heaven sssssslllllllaaaaapppp una I mean L .........oluwakekz
Bullshit..
Linda, if d couple doesn't av a problem wit it then you shouldn't. To me deeper life did right. U don't go to a school where green is worn n wear purple. They will chase u. Guys in christ embassy can perm their hair but u don't see guys in redeem doing so. Kumuyis son was not ok wit d wedding in deeper life. He went to another church, did his wedding and returned to deeper life n they r saying we didn't expect dis n dis frm u, but u did dat so apologise n b on discipline....... Deres absolutely notin wrong wit dat.
What is there to forgive? the wife did not dress indecently. Methinks that people should really start reading the bible for themselves. We pay so much attention to traditions and religious prescriptions that we forget that the bible says that the kingdom of God is not about rules, but about joy and righteousness. Anyways, i guess if you subscribe to a given religious denomination, you should observe the rules. This one is just too much
Let deeper life be. They r one of d few churches I respect. Its not about forgiveness. Its about what they hold as their faith, belief n doctrine. If d couple weren't okay wit it, they wouldn't av returned to d church.
I'm sure the couple expected this. They decided to make themselves apply, first. And make their day colorful. Which is exactly what I would do. My bfs dad is a high-up man in deeper life. Hehehe! Should we get married, I'll shock them even more.
Evry church, b it deeper life, redeemed, winners, christ embassy, catholic, seventh day adventist, baptist, anglican, etc...... Av wat they believe in...... D basis of their existence in d 1st place... N dats d way they feel is best for them to get to their maker...... If u stick to any church, it means u believe in their teachings and what they stand for....... So I see no reason for dis post
Abeggiiiiiii......What's all that. Did he kill someone or steal ? The church is taking this too far....from wiseone "A" town
Abeggiiiiiii......What's all that. Did he kill someone or steal ? The church is taking this too far....from wiseone "A" town
Madam, no talk wetin you no sabi. Your pickin fall hands, you forgive am no mean say you no go spank am. You spank am no mean say you no forgive am, and e no mean say you no love am.
Abeggiiiiiii......What's all that. Did he kill someone or steal ? The church is taking this too far....from wiseone "A" town
What's wrong with the wedding dress? Bunch of hypocrites!mtshew.
I know most of this church people, forgiveness is not part of their Christian practices. If you ask me, forgiveness for wat? Abeg abeg.
Embarrasment and heartache? Loool thank God im not a deeper life church member.
This is bull! There's nofin wrong wit d dress&d church is over reacting
Am very sure the bible also said something concerning rebuke. Plus it's not your business it's the church's business.
Buh seriously linda dis dress is ok n her make up is moderate nah. Na wa 4 all dis deeper life pple ooo. Linda pls post ma comment ooo
Church doctrine is it ticket to heaven? Na dem go apologise nah, if na me of course nothing will make me go 2 DLC .
Will that change all the wedding pics?
Church doctrine is it ticket to heaven? Na dem go apologise nah, if na me of course nothing will make me go 2 DLC .
while i dont gbadum the prescribed dressing in anyway at all...it is the church's rule. Every institution has rules and if you belong to it, you should keep by it's rules. If you break the rules, you bear the consequences...action and reaction....i dont think its a forgiveness isssue
C linda, 2 me wot d GS did was nt wrong at all, if itz dia church doctrine, nobody, nt even d GS son shud break it....... Besides, He is nt a new convert 2 d church period.....
D standard of God standeth sure if truely d doctrine is standard so 2 say.......
Stil dat Bonymandude
Na wao!
My qst is why do their men have to dress well and their women have to look abandoned,underdressed and look like maids?
Also,where is the forgiveness?.I don't understand nigerian christains,I don't get what we are praticing
Finally,that girl's Wedding dress is not in anyway indecent.
I am speechless...harsh if you ask me.
Huh....dey r 4given but dey most be disciplined in order 2 prevent re-occurrence 4rm other members
My first time to comment frankly speaking d whole thing is barbaric i mean d bride is looking decent as much as i knw!
Practice what you preach. I rather be a pagan than fake Christianity. Deeper Life indeed.
As in seriously, what's wrong with the wedding dress? Or better, what's right with it? As far as am concerned in thousands of weddings in naija, that wedding dress is so conservative someone'd think you to come from Atlantis if caught in them. Anyway, rules are rules.
But as for the unforgiving stance of the church? I guess it all boils down to setting an example or warning. If Baba Kumuyi will not spare even his own son then anyone contravening the church's dress code for weddings is bound to get the stick. This is a classic example of 'no matter whose Ox is gored'.
D most important tin b say she don do her wedding, n d beautiful image wil always b der... Fine lady
They are all hyPocrites and home wreckers,how can one man dictate the mode of dressing for his followers as long as one doesn't expose their body there's no big deal,as for me they destroyed my family cause my family were blind,now we are not together again,what goes arround comes around
See me see wahala o! Dis wedding gown is not too revealing,so wot is d WK's problem...awon iyen soji ni nau n dey r nt dirty! Being a christian does nt mean one should wear ugly clothes n look dirty on one's wedding day. D oda woman con dey tie scarf on her wedding day!! E a se mi gwo!!! If u check her hair ehn, person go see lice 4 d hair.#oshisco# Abeg john carry go wit ur wife,norrin do u! God sef go dey proud(ing) u...lol
Mehn d dress is nt bad at all.. Her make up was light.. Am nt in support of d suspension.. Practice wah u preach
Useless pple,dey luk like refugees.who dresses like ds biko?LMAO!!!and who r dey to forgive,mshewwwwww.
Laugh wan kill me! Hypocrites of the highest order.God is watching with 3D glasses!
Nobody wan comment? Abi una dey fear Deeper Life?
Easy Linda. Its not a question of forgiveness. Their hands are tied by the doctrines they made to distinguish their denomination from others. Its an age-old tradition; they won't sacrifice it on the altar of forgiveness. If there were no laws, there would be no sin. They created the law, and they broke it. Therefore they must be condemned.
But I ♥ the law of Christ which has saved me from hypocrisy and bondage!
what is she wearing oo?!!dis she expose her boobs or wat?she did not even wear earrings. I dont get this at al. abeg. this pple jst got married. They dont need all this right now.
Now anyone who says there is something wrong with this picture is either ignorant or stupid. I have known Love way back since 2005 and i can tell you that love is a very intelligent and succesful young lady.
Growing up in Jamaica and all what Love wore for her wedding was by far decent...apart from that When did one way of dressing became the determinant of going to heaven.
Hypocrits!!!!!
Wetin do d dress sef? Na wah...
Na wa oh. Only God knows those who are truly worshiping him.
whatz al dis sef??? Men look @ d outward appearance which cld be vry deceptive, bt God looks @ d heart, wat if dey wore d 'mary amaka' dress d church wnts dem to do nd in d end their heart isn't right wif God nko? Abeg its high time we al search our selves, d bible says 'work out ur salvation with fear nd trembling'!
Is it abt d wedding gown? Or d heart,I dnt seems 2 get it,na wa oooooo,.....
u see...now how do you expect the youth to turn to the word of God when u guys are turning it upside down...what! look @ the picture on the right..ME wear that sack as my wedding dress? looool!
I don't think the GS Pastor W.F. Kumuyi hasn't forgiven them,just that he wants to sound a deciplinary measure to whoever irrespective of status/class that goes against the laid down principles of their church.If he hadn't done this,it will seem as if his children are immune to go contrary against its principles.Such should be emulated in our country & other areas of life,that no one should be Above The Law.
To all depper life sisters c ur life outside u better wise up for u to get cute n hot guys before rapture.
Her dress is fitted yes but covered and very appropriate. Even though no human being is supposed to judge another..why preach forgiveness and not forgive.
Abegggiiiiii so dey want d new bride to dress like she is going for her on burial on her wedding day,mecheeeewww plsssss abeggg dey should cut d couple some slack jare and yes practice what ther preach
All Christians worship d same God,God is everywhere. Look for a God spirited church else were n worship wid dem cos I c nofin wrong wid d wedding dress n abt d forgiveness,if dey cnt gv dt den its Prove dey aint following d bible
Fuck them( ˘˘̯)!!!
hmmmmm. . . *Passing by*
thought that looking good is a sin to them, yet they want to look good please kindly practice what you preach.John and Love your welcome to my own church,we can accomodate you and make you look finer.see suspension for church.
You are a worthless bitch !!!!!
Am talking to You Linda !!!!!
Better face your codded corporate prostitution,and leave the Man of God alone.I don't care if you post my comments,so far am convinced you read it.
Am not here to judge between what is right from what is wrong because its on God dt the greatest judge. What matters here is even if they are suspended that didn't change the fact that this lovely couple got their idea wedding - the ceremony, the cake, the GOWN and everything went the way they wanted it out of the normal doctrine of their church so to me suspending them won't right any wrong they feel the couple have committed.
Its none o'ma freaking business I'm not a deeper lifer. Let the brethren judge one of her own. Enough said
Its none o'ma freaking business I'm not a deeper lifer. Let the brethren judge one of her own. Enough said
this is complete rubbish, as if their cloths will take dem to heaven, this same church will tell its members not to watch tv cos its d devil's tool,yet dey pay 4 airtime on tv n radio 4 dia church dia church programs. who r they fooling? just cos she refuse to look like one old hag*longhiss*
Whatever mehn...... If the church did not give them marriage counselling and dress mode, then they have no right to suspend them. Na wa o!!
Uzo
Because they were suspended doesn't mean they haven't been forgiven.There are consequences you have to bear for sinning.
Just like what David did in the bible, sleeping with Bathsheba by killing Uriah in order to cover up his sin. God forgave him after he asked for forgiveness,but he told him that sword will not depart from his family.So my dear there are consequences you bear for sinning.
This case is different because it is the heads son. He has to descipline them so that others(members) don't say he is being partial. But seriously, what were they thinking(not judging), becos I feel if u decide to worship in a center u should be ready to abide by their doctrines. Just saying sha.... Please sir forgive them. Soso
It's a suspension, not expulsion so I think they were right to suspend them. I commend for not reprieving them of the consequences of their action just because the husband is the son of the GS
This pple no get work again. Instead of using their time and resource for greater works they r talking rubbish. So make d guys wear suits n d ladies look like mumus in mourning? Dts y their men cnt keep d thing btw their legs out of pple who wear fitted clothing. Nonsense!
just let them,,,i think the pst hes doin wat he think z best 4 them,,,,,,,,dicipline nt suspension....deeperlife i liky
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"religion makes men unreasonable". like my Pastor would say. Many Nigerians have lost their sense of reasoning and manipulated in every direction as a result of their religion. Forgiveness for what are they asking for biko? What is wrong with the brides outfit? Wonders will never sieze...hehehe...#Bondagetinz
Linda oooo you are not a deeper lifer, u don't know the doctrines so keep your opinions in your pocket, when saul turned into paul God still told him he would suffer for all what he did to christians even after he became saved by grace yes they have apologised but still need to be disciplined and still need to pray fervently to be called back.john is the GS son so he sleeps n eats the doctrine everyday love is a general overseers daughter she knows the doctrine wella abegg linda ko le ye e if you are not a lifer u can't understand
"You preach forgiveness but can't practice it!" What silly post is this? Does forgiveness exclude discipline? Even the boy's letter of apology annoys me. He's talking of 'cultural differences' as if he's the first to travel out of the country. His actions has put the father's 40-year ministry in ridicule.
Uko-chukwu na d same people.
U droppeD a plate,it breaks now say sorry did the plate form back? No! they made a mistake they had to be disciplined else every1 wud start going against the church stands and then wud tender an apology which wud turn to a trend and by the way if he was not punished U wud hear bcos na GS pikin na Y
LiLi, please allow Deeper Life people n their wahala be.
But the wedding gown is not that revealing now
Abi oo all dis deeper lifers sef,its dere life nah ,n dey shld b allowed to leave dere life abi wetin unah tink
u ve not sinned if u didn't dress to make ur brother sin.God does not judge us by our outward appearance,he looks at the heart.
Ridiculous!
Its discipline, it does not mean dey are not forgiven linda
Mutchewwwww......Nonsense!!!!
Church politics in action. Y did he had to wait till wen people complain bf he wil deciplin them abi was d wedding unaware to him?abi d so called son doesn't knw d standard? I tout church members tak their wedding accessories for scruting bf the wedding. Y didn't she do so and d pastor dt oficiated the wedding is he a learner? Didn't he knw d church standard and their biblical standard bf embarking on a worldly wedding.abeg mak them pack well joor. Dts hw their GI condemd tv callin it hellivision today he uses same hellivision to reach out.we all should follow christ vis his word not doctrine or one GI.linda u must post my comment. 1st to comment
forgiveness as how now? They fully knew what they were doing, the guy is not a novice in the church and he knew how things were done, he deliberately decided to ditch the protocol. If this action is not taken, a lot of the members of their church will become disappointed and believe there in a double standard. see how a normal church member is dressed for god's sakes!!!
i refuse to believe that my dressing style, what i eat or drink would come into question on judgement day
1st there is noting wrong with her dress 2nd they should have follow their doctrine even In dress no matter any country they base in
Orishirishi! Wonders shall never end. I wish many brides could dress as decent as this for their wedding. Pls is dt other white coverall a wedding dress?
When he told them not to watch TV he was watching satellites TVs.
Geeeez!I'm sorry to say this O!to me deeper lifers are hypocrites!smfh
naaahhhh!!!!!Linda nwa be Ikeji,y haven't u posted libers comments on dis piece?abeg do cos I wan read laff abeg..ofcourse I know dat we av close to a thousand comments on dis.
Deeper Life will break. And I am seriously not hexing nobody. Just saying. You know why? They have refused to adjust to the 21st Century. A church that is still equating moderation with what women wear or not wear; that still tells women not to wear trousers, not to do their hair in certain ways, not to wear make-up; that imposes dowdy dress code on the women like the Taliban, etc will soon constitute itself into an irritant and a nuisance not only to the rest of us outsiders, but also unto itself. Kumuyi's son's wedding that ought to be a joyous thing, but now a bile-churner is instructive, indeed a pointers to the emerging contradictions within; that even from the pastor's own home, not many agree with the sickening fundamentalism...
Deeper life pple are hypocrates na so u dnt knw thy only love those whod dreses lyk dem forgeting jesus mixed wit sinners how do u win souls if u dnt love dem ist
Really sad dnt blame d dude 4 wanting his bride looking extra special 4 him. ..I hop d popsy forgives him...he is rather 2oo harsh on his son..
Its not about forgiveness. Its about facing the consequence of their action.
But she is dressed so decently. And the picture to the right??? Who wears that to their wedding. What biblical dressing are they talking about? Where in the bible does it say women should not wear make up or wear fitted dresses.
How can people just sit down and begin to formulate their own doctrine and then say that it is Jesus that said.
I don't see what a dress or earrings have got to do with being heaven conscious. Oh well! To each his own...
Aunty linda abeg dis one no work at all oh!!! Dem 4 kuku no gree dem do wedding @ all na, which kind dress code dem want again???? Mtcheeww... Next pls!!!!!
Na them know oh
they want her to dress like a corpse on her wedding day... obiakpor ..
Odiegwu, it was a ddelibrate and pre-planned adventure. Kumuyi was there smiling away nd now they r act a script they wrote. Well all ill say is dat Africans need to wake up.
Stop lettn them fool U. Pastors r .....
Congrats oh. Don't worry, be happy.
read dis piece on fb n i'v been so appalled by it..... Sebi dey even hd tym 2 write apology leta ni.... Al ye deeper life brodas, if ts mi God hs directed 2 u as ur wife... U sud b ready 2 change church cos i wee nt even 4lw u dia... Whicheva ways on d couple's weddn picture it wud alwys show dt d bride gt 2 wear hr choice of weddn gown n nt wt d church xpctd hr 2 wear *tongue out 2 d critics*
i actually wanted to see if there would be any quote from d Bible dat restrains a woman from wearing make up nd a beautiful wedding dress!! Dis heaven ehn na God grace go carry us reach there o
See bride na wa ooo.
well all i can say is that her dress is decent,and has for the deeper life people most of them are just hypocrites,when i was a little girl my teacher in school who was a strict deeper life himself tried to sexually abuse me and he was always teaching against this worldly dressing then in school and always carrying bible up and down,before pointing fingers check yourself and your children
Mtsheeewww medicine after death.what's wrong with her wedding dress anyway???when will people get over conventional christianity???when???*sighs**
It's not a matter of unforgiving,if they are not dealt with now,other people will soon follow their footsteps.
na wa o...if the lady come do meagan good style nko,wetin for happen?i don live for jamaica before,this lady is very well dressed and to be honest even by nigerian hypocrisy standards,she looks decent,she is not nigerian for Gods sake,why dem dey persecute this lady,na so she go say she wan divorce now,dem go say the kumuyi boy no fit remarry again....mmschew in patois..
Linda na wa for u self.. Did the Bible say forgive and don't discipline???? When David sinned and marry another man wife and send the man to war front line and killed him, Did God not forgive him when he ask for forgiveness and still discipline him?? Yes GOD did but GOD still discipline him for his action so my DEAR Linda ur line saying they preach forgiveness and don't practice it is very wrong in my opinion.. They have to be discipline them because if they don't any one can break their values and just ask for forgive... l know say u nor too know Bible Linda ooo so read 2 Samuel 11:1-end then u will see that GOD forgive him but he was still discipline...
I think he forgave them but they have to be treated that way so someonelse would nt repeat n still ask 4 forgiveness,in other words its just a lesson 2 others in †ђξ church
Y is it dat d men will dress very fine and d women will dress like my grandmother. It ur heart dat matters not ur dressing. wat is d girl's business she has don her wedding.
It's simply a double standard, I'm personally at peace with way the couple dressed. But against the background of the coventional deeper life mode of dressing, it clearly point out a double standard.
Why, for instance were they not stopped from going ahead with the wedding, but it was after they had achieved there aim that they are now being suspended.
Question is, if it were an ordinary member would they have allowed the wedding to be conducted, it even begs the question when you realised that the General Oversea was personally present at the wedding.
The totality of it all, as far I'm concerned is that all those are superficiality that doesn't actually affect anyone's relationship with God except for bondage that some people had decided to put themselves in.
Case closed
Only God can george ooo na wa
Only God can george ooo na wa
wahala day ooooo, dis one na their own personal decision, so to all single's ladies in the church,there is danger.
Linlin, Please don't question the decision of the church. The groom knows what has been the standard of the church for years and so no excuse for deviation. All the same, the church should forgive them.
Lmao....no comments!!
Pple pple pple, this is not an issue of forgiveness. It is discipline! Remember when God asked moses to Speak to the rock when the children of Israel needed water in the wilderness. He disobeyed by striking his rod on the rock instead of speaking to the rock. God forgave him but he didn't enter the promise land as a punishment. I support the actions of the church and I'm sure that both Mr and Mrs Kumuyi are not ignorant of the principles of the church wen it comes to discipline. I'm not a deeperlife member but I was a member.
In as much as the church should have forgiven them after their apology,but they should have known better....the boy has spent all his life with his father why not do as your being told or leave the church.
The bible says no sinner shall go unpunished. They have been forgiven but still has to go through the discipline process of the church. That's the rule.
They should forgive them. The boy is his son for crying out loud
Is it by your dressing or whats in your heart? This suspension is just wrong on many levels.
So many hypocrites in d church of christ 2day....personaly,i dnt see anytn rong wit d gown
Standards of dressing?Displeasure and frowning of God?Under discipline?.They sound hypocritical and like 'extremists'I quiver at d thot of wat wud becum of dem if they were 'muslims'.Their fellow 'members' wud av done and undo all in d name of 'God'...Pardon me!Just thinkn out loud.No harm intended.
Linda, I think forgiveness has been granted to the couple, but they are placed under discipline so as to protect the integrity of the church, serve as yard stick for others.
Slye D Poet, says.
For God's sake..Deeper life to me is just a useless church..how can someone wear dat rubbish to a wedding..no make up,nothing at all..they can't even forgive d couple even after apologising..unbelievable..D couple shld stop begging dem and jst change church..Rubbish............THE DON
Hello Linda Ikeji, there are some Spiritual matters that one need to tread softly. You can debate on politics,on fashion etc but this is an issue that have to do with GOd, and some set of Christian who have a determination of making it to heaven at all cost, not minding what commetator say or do as long as they get to heaven. So i must need tell you their is really nothing to talk about on this issue. Leave the issue for God to Justified and not for you to be SAN(Senior Advocacy of Nigeria) Cheers
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My question is: what part of the bible says people should dress like mad people?
Tnx Linda 4 d pix,I was imagining d dress of d bride.
It's not a matter of forgiveness, he is the son of the GS, he should know the do(s) and dont(s) of the church better than anyone.. They did that out of pure intention, they should serve the punishment..
How about u account for sin.punishment so that next time you'll think twice b4 commiting.....
exactly. where is the place of forgiveness? ..... We want to be like our Lord Jesus then we should aspire to be like Him completely
Waooo!!! Luv dis church 4 der staandard hs bn lyk dis 4 yrs.. David ws a man aftr God's own heart bt it does nt stop him 4rm punishing him anytym his disobeys( chastising sm1 doesn't mean U̶̲̥̅̊ hv nt 4gvn d persn).
really what will Jesus do - He would forgive and let it go! see the case of the harlot 'cast the 1st stone if you have never sinned"
God is frowning at what naaaa
Dis s modern dayz plz ℓ̊ dnt see anythin wrong wit d way she s dressed,dey shuld leave Dem nd forgive Dem jare ℓ̊ cnt imagine myself dress lyk dis on ♍Ɣ weddin day tufiakwa
This is crazy,you want to punish ur son for goin against church doctrine nd u claim its biblical dressn pattern? Wre in d bible does it say dat a xtian shld dress like a slave?. Den in orda to cover ur shame nd act like u re all strict on ur son, u now break a golden rule dat is expressly stated in d bible "forgiveness" even afta d boy apologised? I tink he shld go examine his spiritual life once again, cos ryt now he's nt beign a xtian jst actn based on d pressue beign mounted on him by others.uche osas
That's the only way to forestall making bad precedents and maintain discipline in the church. In fact, Paul in the Bible once said an erring believer should be cast out of the church and delivered to satan for the purging of the soul.
I need to ask is dressing that will take you to heaven or your believe in Christ I did not see any thing wrong with this outfit they are hypocrite they should leave the young couples alone to enjoy their marriage
That's the only way to forestall making bad precedents in the church of God and maintain discipline. In fact, Paul in the Bible once said that an erring believer should be cast out of the church and delivered to satan for the purging of his soul.
At a time I knw they don't watch tv av they starTed dat now.. Absolute rubbish.. If na only deeper life dey dis world I wud b a pastor and serve God in my house afterall he's ominipresent. No wonder dey marry in dier late 40's na okrika bride dem dey produce. John enjoy ur sexy and pretty wife jare
lame!!!
Na wa.....This is the problem I have with my fellow christians. God has saved us by grace and faith in Christ yet a majority of Christians still choose to live by the law. Imposing unnecessary law on their church members and thus judging them based on laws that were formed by humans. it's a pity. Let God be the judge.
Hmmmmmmmmm! SMH God help Nigerians and their values they mix with religion. Today I really ask myslf if christainity is practiced in the church or just doctrine?
If people are this righteous, I wonder why Jesus came? People the most important thing is to 4gv each oda n accept christ.
Doctrine will never take any 1 to heaven not even the mode of dressing.
I ask myself if is not the same God the whole world worship. Churches abroad I attend every sunday is totally different while in Nigeria its doctrine.
Yet the Nigerians don't show love in church nor 4gv. May God help us all in JESUS name. Amen
Hypocrites!
God, pls forgive me for my thots that am about to pour out.
Linda I know there's a saying that where there are no rules, there are no sins. But please, for crying out loud, this bride's dress saga is all crap abeg. I know most people will raise an eyebrow @ the bride's dressing defiling the norms of the church but please, wasn't the wedding coordinated in at deeper life church? For one, the bride's outfit are scrutined in the church if it befits a deeperlifer even before the wedding day. Were all those protocols not observed?
I know people will cry foul if the couples arnt sanctioned particularly being the GS son but heck. They have tendered an open apology for "Christ sake". Why should they be suspended? Will that undo anythng? Ur answer is as good as mine. Jesus said "he without a sin should b the first to cast a stone". If d girl b one "asawana", sharp sharp, dem go port go another church. Afterall,d church wey u attend no b d yardstick to enter heaven.
Seun
The suspension is triggered by the fact that John the second son of Bishop Kumuyi deviated from the laid down norms, conventions and principles.
hehe!! i no no wetin i go tlk 4 dis one o! bt wait a minute! the wedding gown i see here is nt bad nah>>
In the name of Jesus, just keep on deceiving yourself.
Been disciplined does not mean he hasn't been forgiven. 1, John should have none better and as the son of the General superintendent what the church ethics entails. 2, WF Kumuyi is a well respected man of God that doesn't compromise, he preaches and stand strictly on biblical principles and what the church believes, he set the rules based on the inspiration and instruction he got form God. 3, If he fails to discipline his son it will spark more criticism and will definitely affect the church. 4, Eli the Prophet did not discipline his children when they where sleeping with the ladies in church and stealing from the church he eventually died unpleasantly because God was not happy with him. 5,Kumuyi actually did that because he loved his son and the church,he will be held accountable by the Great Judge or miss heaven if he fails to instill that discipline, remember the case of Moses just one disobedience cause him the promise land. 6, I believe John was overwhelmed by the the Love he has for the Lady not that he doesn't know, women are very powerful when it comes to certain things(probably the lady said "its either I dress this way or no wedding")Lastly salvation is an individual thing work out your own...
This is why many Christians quite churches these days impose doctrines that are not Biblical. Pls the couples should look for another church to worship it's not by force to go to deeper life when it's not like the girl got pregnant before wedlock
Linda am nt against make up or dressing, bt discipline does nt meant dat dey were nt forgiven.wen ur dad beat u, does nt mean he didn't 4give u. 40 yrs of structure can nt be trown away jst bcos of letter of apology. If dey don't discipline him nw, Linda u will be d first to post it, u will say he was nt discipline bcos he is d GS's son. I salute ur courage Baba Kumuyi. nd note guys; am nt a Deeper Lifer. Jst love dat Man Of GOD.
Haba Linda. So even u go dey think this shallow with ur closing remark? Wen GS son, that knows the laid down rules breaks it, should he receive a handshake and "don't do it again statement"? People will start doing same and people will talk. Its same as saying that people that kills and do bad things should not be taking to court cos the said sorry or writes a letter.
Ok naw "Those who live in glass house should not throw stones"d Church rules shd b applied without fear or favour.
They make the rules, they break the rules. Let them sort themselves out, simple.
Dear Linda, do not ever think like that. I want you to know that God himself embraces correction of errors which may attract punishment in some ocassions. Remember that what they did is a kind of costly and misleading error, not that they don't know the right thing, but neglected it. The Bible supported it, Prov. 23:13-14 says Do not withold discipline from a child..... This is totally different from forgiving an offender. The correction is to bring them back to the God of their fathers, which is acceptable. God bless you! (I am a Baptist member anyway).
LMAO... They are joking! Religious fanatics. *long hiss*
hypocrites... make then go join or form another church na...many deeper life members who have been itching for a change would gladly join them. Let me suggest a name for the new church. emmmmmm....... depperlifeliberatedministynternational
Mslichie
The couples too demselves, dey shuld know d rules nd regulations of their church, wether its in jamaica or d us!
What is wrong with that wedding dress? These deeper life peeps have a big problem. They just don't know it. Self righteousness will lead them to damnation... Caution..
but u guys should remember that is a leader by example i love what he did. their is no son or father in the in the kingdom of heaven. i love that.
Nawa o, holier than thou attitude. Ds churches subject dier follows t untold bondage in d name of doctrines n rules. Well dats d business of d Kumuyis: dey should av known beta...
With due respect to the leadership of the church,I think they have gone too far by suspending the couple.
What would they have done;
if he is a drug lord
if he is a gay
if he had impregnated daughter of one of boko haram leader.
The fact that he is the son of the head of the church should not deprive him of his right.
They have turn the church to PDP, where suspension is the order of the day.
Well, the couple should be stronger, this is their own trial period. I suggest another wedding where the bride will put on Ijab, atleast to satisfy the church leaders.
one thing they should know is that 40 years ago is not the same as today, and more over most of they children are now leaving the church all because of this things. And the Bible its self says "practice what you preach."
Nothing is wrong wif d dress,its so decent. Buh since they av rules nd regulations governing d church I don't think they've done anyfin wrong in suspending anybody dat has gone against laid down rules. D Apology letter shows dat they've rly done sumfin against d doctrine of d church nd they av to face suspension nd moreso d guy is kumuyi's son, so I think he shld know beta. Nd if he doesn't suspend him now pple will lata say its bcos he s his son. Since they've done it to odas in d past I don't think d church shld compromise its stand bcos d offender is kumuyi's son. They've done well. Nd Linda wat do yu mean by they are nt practising d forgiveness they preach?? So they shld let him go nd lata sumbdy else will wear see-thru nd tender apology letter. Then they will turn d church to a total joke. Its nt as if they expelled them, they only suspended them.
i feel ur a learner cos the G.S wasn't there himsef nd talkin abt suspension it's okay cos he isn't d first if they suspend others y not his son.@I am westino
Bona lmao u get your own wahala but i still luv u sha .....no be only be fruitful and multiply .. na "and abraham knew Sarah " now sister i would like to know you better .. i heard they don't allow dating sef that the guy would go and meet your pastor to talk to you for him..i no fit bikoo -AMAKALETTE
modern day slavery...the men can look good the women shouldn't...what nonsense...plus the woman's dress looks decent...the church should review their dressing code...and get out of their 1930 style..
Mr and Mrs John Kumuyi knew what they were doing jor and they achieved it- a beautiful wedding picture. will they also tell them to break the pictures or redo the wedding?
this is bullshit!
hmmm
Wel said ppl,@ 1st y wil his son 2k d weddin 2 jamaica,was d dad nt aware?y didn't he do in his fada headquater here in naija?
This church is NOT Christianity. Full stop.
from London, UK
This shows that you cannot continue to bottle up people. Times have changed. The leadership of Deeper Life should stop oppressing their members. Both the bride and groom are children of leaders of the Church they are representing many who cannot voice out their opinion.
yes, the room know the doctrine of the church so he shold abide by it as a sign of respect to his father. If we are considering the doctrin here, we have to talk about sister and father how they dress. we should remember that christanity was brought to Nigeria throuhg Romans which are white and from all indication the way the dressed was superb and beutiful.if we all cristian are going to have any dress code shold be like the Romanians. We Nigerians choose the way we want our member to dress which is not biblical. we shoul ensure we cover our nakedness and not expose our hiding treasure. so y attaching a particular dress code to a church? I like MOUNTAIN OF FIRE, they dont waer earing but their member look decent and apealing when you meet them. they do not perm as well the the way and manner they will put on their nice shirt and shirt you will love them. Is there not God there?.
Please bless the couple and wish tjem happy married life.
Linda pls published this mail. Tanx and God bless
Just because the bride was not lookin like someone morning on her wedding day as other brides do has now been translated to be indecent dressing. Deeper life members and their hypocracy will not kill me.!!
Lwkmd oh.... chai
If they are not playing double standard, the weeding should not have hold in the first instance, for ordinary members the church leadership will simply cancelled the weeding and suspend the people involved. But here the weeding took place and everybody were smiling only to come back and reject the very weeding they all took part in.
It is clear...our biggest problem in Nigeria is not corruption, not the police, not even PHCN. It is religion! Religion has made the majority of us incapable of objective thought and therefore cannot see beyond our noses. It has put us in bondage that is why we can never rise above our current situation.
@nekky - well said!
i dont see anything wrong with her wedding dress well every church has their own doctrine. his father jst proved that the church is not his but Gods.
@immaculate u ar vry senseless for callng a respected man of God stupid.....where is ur brain,al bcos u want 2 comment.silly thing.may God forgive ur soul.
Excuse you Linda! Rules are rules.Of course forgiveness is being preached so is discipline. The couple wasn’t asked to leave the church, they were only suspended from certain activities FOR A WHILE
pastor kumuyi is a good preacher,its jst sum of d church doctrine dat dnt go down wt me.....aside dat deeper life is okay...u all shud jst shut up an take several seats.
i no blame most of una wey dey talk sha,na john giv una talk,cos he knws fully well wat he was gettng in2,he shud pocket hs apology letter,medicine afta death....
he wanted a wedddng like ds and he got it
Abeg Christianity ȋ̝̊̅ڪ nt synonymous †̥ poverty,dnt gt it twisted.God ȋ̝̊̅ڪ interested i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ both d inner απϑ outer beauty,decency ȋ̝̊̅ڪ d word απϑ @ same tym we shuldnt b an hypocrite.d outfit ȋ̝̊̅ڪ decent,infact stil SUish fø̲̣̣я̅ me,though dia doctrine ȋ̝̊̅ڪ against it, S̶̲̥̅Ơ̴̴̴̴̴̴͡ D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ shuld b punishd.
i no dey like all dis tawk. Who is the offender who is the forgiver? Which law was broken? Law of the church or law of God? As far as i am concerned, God created his laws. The ten commandments, the commandments in mark 7,galatians 5 and many more. Above all, Love for God and Love for our neighbours. Those are Gods commandments. All these are church doctrines, C.AC, Deeper life,winners, etc they all have different doctrines. Who are we serving? God or pastors? Haba! Y wud dey suspend someone from the church? We all sin and God has never stopped being merciful. These pastors create doctrines and expect us to bow down as if we dont know how to read the Bible. Yet,they extort money from us, ride private jets while we struggle to pay ''offering for God'' and 'tithe'', they build schools that 95% of church members cant send their children to, and it is dis same offering and tithe dey used in building dem,or is the money from their own pockets? As if we do not know how to read Bible. Some pastors even curse those that put 20naira as offering and bless those who pay 500# out of their billions of naira. Smh. May God save us all and give us the grace to do his good will.
Sheer hypocrisy on the path of the Church, Kumuyi, his son, daughter in law, the inlaws, the officiated pastor that wedded them and the congregation that witnessed the weeding.
I believe that the Officiating pastor must ask the question of " anyone here that knows why these TWO should not be joined together as husband and wife should come out now to disclose it or forever keep his/ her lips sealed", so why didnt any member of the church raise his or her hand to condemn what the lady was wearing as not portraying the teachings of the church?
If u go to the houses of some of these " Deeper Life Church Members" u will hardly see a TV set in their sitting room, if u ask them, they will tell u that its unGodly, but if u peep inside their bedroom, u will see a TV set covered with a blanket. What a way of deceiving themselves.
Can Kumuyi's sons claim that they have not been watching TV in those countries they reside? Will they refute the allegations that they don't use perfumes?, This one that just got married in Jamaica, can he swear that he has not been fornicating with his wife before they tie the knot?. If he presents his blood for test, they could even find tobacco, hard drugs and alcoholic intakes in his blood system.
Pastor Kumuyi should release his Church members from all these shackles. Tell me if its a sin to wear normal wedding gowns?. Is the Holy Bible against wearing of normal wedding gowns?. See how the lady wearing a china white made wedding gown is looking like a corpse from the mortuary, Look at even her chief bridesmaid, looking like a zombie.
Linda, stop talking about forgiveness, rather tell the G.O. to release his church members of this shackles or rather let the church members use this opportunity to untie themselves. When I was operating video club, Bro. Mike, a member of Deeper Life, used to come and hire ADULT MOVIES from me. He was not married then. What does he do with it? What does he used to watch the adult movies? Was it not the same unGodly TV as their church calls it?. In this church, they still watch TV showing G.O. Preaching, is it not the same TV?
Their apologies to me is nonsense. Other church members should follow suit in wearing normal wedding gowns on wedding days and at least making up a bit. Imagine, they don't use flowers during weddings. Are flowers unGodly too? I thought flowers signifies love?. Who is fooling who? John Kumuyi has been with his father for years as a kid, he knows the traditions of their church as it frowns at wearing the " worldly wedding gowns" and yet he went ahead to allow his wife to wear it believing to tender an apology letter thereafter. Linda, who is fooling who? He said it was this indiscipline that led Kumuyi to decline attending the wedding, so does it mean that Kumuyi had seen the wedding gown before the wedding day? Lets assume he (Kumuyi) saw it before the wedding and asked John to retrace his steps. Suffice it to say that John told Kumuyi pure and plain that he would not heed to his word which led Kumuyi to boycotting the wedding. If Kumuyi had walked out of the wedding hall, that would have been a different thing. So, I can tell u LIBers that the guy John knew what he did, he knew from time immemorial that the church members were been held captives by those laws, and decided to do what pleases him when it got to his turn. His apology letter is another act if hypocrisy.
Let Kumuyi change those laws or let the church members, take their own destinies in their own hands period. God is interested in our souls and not what we wear.
Okikiola.
Linda, well done o. Am a lover of ur blog but in case of the above topic the public and u has no say. DLC has it rules and regulations based on BIBLE doctrines.Do not mention forgiveness in this case di boy in question is a worker in the church, the entire issue is for the church and the church alone. Thanx
I knew this was coming. why the punishment after the wedding? why were they not punished on the wedding day? Where were the marriage committee who specialises in scattering people's weddings? + the bride was not inspected before leaving home? It is all a cover up so that the church members will stop talking about it. I just see it as an improvement in their dress sense,kudos to the couple, they have now laid a good example for all upcoming couple. Am happy
But was the Father not at the wedding? Was he not a part of the events leading to the wedding? Did he not approve of the bride? Was she not making up before the wedding?
So its "SUTANA" that they wear for wedding in DL? After they will be condemning CELE
That u r being forgiven doesn't mean u will not be punished. No sinner will go unpunished is what d Bible says, try and get it right Linda. ok?
Linda but waitoooo, so dat last photo is a wedding pic? LMAO. And why are the men (groom and bestman) not wearing Lord luggards coat with shorts and stockings since they want the ladies to look ancient. upgraded hypocrits......
Nice!
Bonario, you crazy. Lol @ honey let's be fruitful and multiply...
Hahahahahah u no well
Linda, you are wrong. Godly sorrow brings repentance and forgiveness not necessarily mere confession.To every action,there is an equal or opposite reaction.Both are in Deeper Life and understand d standard,they are therefore bound.When they know that they are not in agreement with the standard,they should have left the Church.The Church is perfectly right to inflict such discipline.If condoning indiscipline&breaches is equal to forgiveness,chronic fornicator will fornicate to enter heaven!! I think the lady's parent should be checked,including the Marriage Committee.
What am just going to say is that every body have there own issues is just like father like son. The GO him self did not wait for his wife death to pass over a year when he got married to another woman which mean they have been dating each other before his wife passed so I think the GO son think it is okay to break the church rules by having his wedding in his own way. Arrest my case.
Linda, I expect dat u first find find out about how d church operates b4 u write dis article. Now u ve given room for unguided comments. When d wedding was conducted,the church was accused of double standard. Now dat d right measure is taken (better late than never) u talk about not been forgiven. If ur child disobeys or misbehave will he not be disciplined. For those condemning d church each org has rules. Be it bank, school or force. The best is obey or quit. else u 'll be sanctioned.
people just think they can open their mouth to pass comments. All your comments should have a scriptural basis and stop being unwise. Read your bibles and stop getting busy majoring on the minor and minoring on the major
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