Tradition,Education and Religion are the worlds biggest scams! Tradition is the invisible chain used to bind our physical bodies, Education is the perimeter fence that keeps our minds captive, while Religion is the pair of handcuffs binding our spirit. Once a person or organization has control of these, they enslave the captive and his offspring perpetually. Anyone who sees through these scams and wants out of this modern day slavery, is seen as a stupid outcast by fellow ‘mind prisoners’. Imagine one lady in my office arguing that tithe is an instruction from God, I agree, but God, in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 14 verse 22, says eat your tithe at a chosen place, the person replied me saying “God forbid!” I showed her the bible, including the part where the instruction from God was for us to purchase the alcohol drink of our choice with our tithe (Deut 14v26) and she said “that can’t be right”……. Of course it can’t be right, your pastor knows more than God now, abi! Listen, the instruction from God is bring 10% of your crops and the first born male of your animals. _________________ Deut 14 v 23 “Bring this tithe to the designated place of worship—the place the LORD your God chooses for his name to be honored—and eat it there in his presence. This applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn males of your flocks and herds. Doing this will teach you always to fear the LORD your God.” __________________ So let’s imagine a cattle rearer has 5 cows, and each gave birth to a female calf. That year he had increase of 5 cows, was he supposed to tithe on them? Of course not! Why? The bible said “first born male” I often wonder where these retires yahoo boys got this 10% across board calculation for tithe, because, for a whole year, the cattle rearer was not obligated to tithe in anyway! During Jesus time there were people who didn’t plant crops or rear animals, laborers, tailors,carpenters, tax collectors etc. These people didn’t deal with crops and animals they dealt with money… Hmmmm both Deuteronomy and Malachi talk only about crops and animals not money! Any pastor that force tithe upon you, is a glorified yahoo boy! ~FREEZE”
Linda you refuse to post Freeze's comments on that topic. Well this is what fressze says::::: Tradition, Education and Religion are the worlds biggest scams! Tradition is the invisible chain used to bind our physical bodies, Education is the perimeter fence that keeps our minds captive, while Religion is the pair of handcuffs binding our spirit. Once a person or organization has control of these, they enslave the captive and his offspring perpetually. Anyone who sees through these scams and wants out of this modern day slavery, is seen as a stupid outcast by fellow ‘mind prisoners’. Imagine one lady in my office arguing that tithe is an instruction from God, I agree, but God, in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 14 verse 22, says eat your tithe at a chosen place, the person replied me saying “God forbid!” I showed her the bible, including the part where the instruction from God was for us to purchase the alcohol drink of our choice with our tithe (Deut 14v26) and she said “that can’t be right”……. Of course it can’t be right, your pastor knows more than God now, abi! Listen, the instruction from God is bring 10% of your crops and the first born male of your animals. _________________ Deut 14 v 23 “Bring this tithe to the designated place of worship—the place the LORD your God chooses for his name to be honored—and eat it there in his presence. This applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn males of your flocks and herds. Doing this will teach you always to fear the LORD your God.” __________________ So let’s imagine a cattle rearer has 5 cows, and each gave birth to a female calf. That year he had increase of 5 cows, was he supposed to tithe on them? Of course not! Why? The bible said “first born male” I often wonder where these retires yahoo boys got this 10% across board calculation for tithe, because, for a whole year, the cattle rearer was not obligated to tithe in anyway! During Jesus time there were people who didn’t plant crops or rear animals, laborers, tailors,carpenters, tax collectors etc. These people didn’t deal with crops and animals they dealt with money… Hmmmm both Deuteronomy and Malachi talk only about crops and animals not money! Any pastor that force tithe upon you, is a glorified yahoo boy! ~FREEZE”
There is a blessing attached to "first fruit offering" and "tithes". God said he will rebuke the devourers for our sake in the bible. However, it is not by force. If you pay, you will benefit from the blessings attached to it in the bible. If you dont pay you wont benefit. It is as simple as that. It is your choice and you have the right to refuse or accept. It is not a do or die
Tithe debate. Just train and have a lot of money. Then give to charity
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Nigerians wake up. It's not done like this in other parts of the world, yet Na we dey suffer pass. Stop giving these guys your hard earned cash, let them go out and work just like you do. It's just a shame really, when will this rubbish stop. Can't the government do something? This is criminal.
Dnt spoil my church.....my GO has n will never force any one to give first fruit, so if your zonal pastor disturbs you, why not look up to the GO or look up to the Bible itself? We just serve God ignorantly this days..I'm a member of mfm but I put my first fruit offering at my wish, no body forces me..but leaving the church for just that,,meaning the devil really got you.
That's Yoruba pastors for u. Must u come to social media and announce it huh? WHY ALWAYS CHRISTIANS HUH? Can a Muslims post some thing like this against their vampire religion huh? Bitch if u like leave they dont know u. Millions dont know the absence of one person. CHRISTIANITY IS THE BEST HOW I WISH AM BORN A CHRISTIAN.
That's Yoruba pastors for u. Must u come to social media and announce it huh? WHY ALWAYS CHRISTIANS HUH? Can a Muslims post some thing like this against their vampire religion huh? Bitch if u like leave they dont know u. Millions dont know the absence of one person. CHRISTIANITY IS THE BEST HOW I WISH AM BORN A CHRISTIAN.
What exactly is your reason for bringing him on social media? You present a man of God to be lashed by the world, ur koboko still dey soak for kerosene
Here the question this twat is asking. Ok, I will answer you, the same reason why God himself, Jesus his Son, the Holy Spirit, the galaxy, Earth, the president and everyone else is discussed on social media. If God himself is being talked about on social media, in comparism to that God, who the baga then is a mere 'man' of God that cannot be a subject of discussion? Nigerian Christians are a special kind of retard. Until you are able to separate God from the cultures of your local churches, you will NEVER know true peace. Jesus died for you not any rogue in suit trying to scare you into his small box - seek and focus on that Jesus and dump the rogues
In the things of God and church, we need to be careful, the bible seems be contradictory so u need to understand it very well. Fela wrote a song on this, so follow ur heart when given, it is not under conpulsion
hmmm! it usually a had decision to make to pay ones first fruit. It is easy for those who have enough already and won't feel it if they give their first year salary. It is very difficult for those whose salary is not even enough for the month let alone having excess to save or spend if they give that one all out. It happened to me. when I got my new job I gave my first fruit. It takes grace my Dear. Just see it that you are giving it to God not to your Pastor. Then tell that God to protect you and your job through out that year. If you do not have the grace please don't give cause that will mean grumbling and no blessings comes with that. I 100% disagree with all Pastors that force people to give and go to the extent of causing them and putting fear in them by using terrible words to pray. That is evil, it is not from God. My former Pastor once said that the congregation should help him that if anyone leaves his church the person will not prosper or do well thereafter. That prompted my Husband to say we should leave the church. Since we left, things are far much better for us now compared to then. We have achieved a lot and still achieving. God will help the Church of this age and help our Pastors.
Aunty, nobody is forcing u to bring firstfruit, maybe u misinterpreted his preaching, anyway we don't need people like u in our church, am a living testimony to first fruit offering so pls buzz off. One lest judgmental person out of our church d breakthrough will go around
a.k.a EDWIN CHINEDU AZUBUKO said... . Nna and am sure many fell for the trick.. Nigerians are smart but when it involve pastors they become MUMU.... Gud to knw you escaped b4 it is too late.... . . ***CURRENTLY IN JUPITER***
You and your leaving mfm is so inconsequential. Go study the Bible, even though no pastor is to judge, his is to preach the word and you are to either heed or continue to rationalize God's commandments. .
READ MORE OF BIBLE GO TO THE BOOK MALACHI 3:1-17 AND READ TRU IT AM A BONIFIED MEMBER OF MFM AND ITS NOT A MOST TO PAY UR FIRST FRIUT! I AND MY HOUSEHOLD HAVE BEEN PAYINGS OURS AND OUR RAIN OF BLESSINGS HAS NEVER STOPED THE BLESSINGS IS JUST TOO MUCH! WITH YOUR FAITH OF SOWING UR FIRST FRUIT! I PRAY GOD OPENS HER EYES AND ENLIGHTEN HER IGNORANCE! JUST AS ITS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE THAT MY PEOPLE PERISH FROM LACK OF KNOWLEDGE!
So he should threaten fire and brimstone upon anyone who refuses? Shouldnt God be the judge of that? I can see u really dont ve sense..and for u to even type in capslock makes it so disgusting .
I CAN SEE UR BRAIN HAVE BEING INFECTED WITH THIS BUHARI HUNGER REGIME! DONT READ WITH UR ANUS BUT WITH UR EYES READ CLEARLY WHAT I WROTE I DID NOT SAY SHE DID ANY WRONG BUT TO STUDY HER BIBLE THE MORE! AND AS ME TYPING IN CAPSLOCK N UR HURTING, HEY KIDDO FEEL FREE TO CHOWK ON UR ANDROID UR USING TO TYPE NONSENSE! AM OUT OF HERE
UR SENSE HAVE BEING EATEN UP BY THE VIRUS DETECTED IN UR BRAIN! UR HERE HATING ON A COMMENT U DONT EVEN KNOW WHO POSTED IT AND LINDA KEEP GIVING ALL THIS SMALL KIDS WITH ANDROID PHONES CHANCE TO DE COME TO TYPE RUBBISH HERE WEY DEM SUPPOSE DE SCHOOL OR HOUSE DE WASH PLATE
No one will force you to do that in MFM, you probably left because of other reasons! Be truthful to yourself, obviously you could not stand the prayers that destroyed your mission there! We sure know your type, agents of darkness!
@Anon 10.14 Don't judge, calling her agent of darkness is judging. She may be purer than you but just ignorant @ Doublehay, paying offering tithes and firstfruit is God's instruction and biblical. May He give you the strength to understand the power of tithing and giving cos tithers and givers never lack. When you give your tithes and firstfruit, God himself will provide for you He gave you that job/salary he can take it from you, get you promoted even give you a bigger one, giving opens doors
The Pastor is meant to let u understand the reason God asked to give and benefit of giving not FORCE and CURSE, that is where he went wrong
But my dear, adopt the giving life, do not look at any pastor but focus on the word, the truth will set you free.
Young woman, you lack the understanding. No pastor forces anyone to bring all collected in January, it is just between you and your God. And in all you do apply wisdom. May God bless you.
GOD BLESS U ANON WHO SAID THE IDIOT CANNOT WITHSTAND THE PRAYERS THERE! PLS HELP ME SHEF MORE LIGHT TO THE SO CALLED VIRUS DETECTED BRAIN LIKE FISH GIRL OR BOY TYPING RUBBISH WITH ANDROID KPALASA!
Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.-2 Corinthans 9:7. Please try to visit the Kingdom-hall of Jehovah's Witnesses. visit their website (www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/meetings/) to search for the nearest Congregation Meetings of Jehovah’s Witnesses
Foolish Christians, this one is a suckling Christian cos she obviously doesn't know d word, if she did nobody would force her to do anything or leave d church. Mumu Christians who complain about d church, weda it is d pastor u are going to church for or God. U foolishly posted dis on social media since ur generation is all about social media, tomorrow u will be looking for how to take it down or take back wat u said.
This has been happening and won't stop happening until we Africans stop being gullible and wake up to reality.
Religion has really eaten us up here in Africa. We believe and do whatever these so called Pastors and Imams say all the time forgetting the fact that we are all equal in the eyes of God, don't wanna sound like a preacher though but the fact still remains that we Africans are so gullible and really blinded by these Religious heads.
They have been milking us since God knows when, they live in the best houses, drive the best cars, send their children to the best schools out of what the so called followers contributes monthly or annually..
The true definition of a person do not lie in his religion but his character.
This has been happening and won't stop happening until we Africans stop being gullible and wake up to reality.
Religion has really eaten us up here in Africa. We believe and do whatever these so called Pastors and Imams say all the time forgetting the fact that we are all equal in the eyes of God, don't wanna sound like a preacher though but the fact still remains that we Africans are so gullible and really blinded by these Religious heads.
They have been milking us since God knows when, they live in the best houses, drive the best cars, send their children to the best schools out of what the so called followers contributes monthly or annually..
The true definition of a person do not lie in his religion but his character.
Giving is sacrificial,it is not always easy and it shouldn't be done when we have enough.we should actually learn to sow and stop complaining because when we sow we are blessed.though it shouldn't be by force but it should also become part of us
It is biblical. We cannot understand the spiritual things. God who provided the first fruit will surely make a way to sustain you throughout the month. A trial will convince you. IT IS A MATTER OF CHOICE. CHOOSE THE RIGHT!
They need more private jets! Packing our hard-earned money out of the economy and yet they are shouting recession. They are so powerful to identify witches in the church but so blind to see those members who are looting our national treasury. They need whatever money from whatever means from whatever f**king motherf**kers. Cowards they are! Even lord Jesus became violent when he found gamblers in the temple but our pastors love for money means that any money that enters the church is automatically sanctified and the benefactor is blessed. Churches are now built and sustained with stolen treasuries,yahoo money and all other sorts. When you keep our money in your bank accounts without any knowledge of how to re-invest it directly back into the economy...they now place church workers on salaries from donations and offerings. If half of redeem churches in nigeria are business centers...we won't be talking about unemployment. The more the churches,the more corrupt nigerians are, the more we have militants,...Pastors are well appreciated in nigeria so stay here and pray for nigeria and until there is goodness. What then do you need jets for..to fly and pray for US or UK economy...(jokers!) Billions of naira lie in your accounts waiting to be spent on new jets abi? No be so! You are a great part of this corruption and God knows it. People are fooled by their humble looks but for how long....we are not being blessed despite having more than 10000 churches, nigeria is perishing bcos of lack of knowledge...EFCC needs to start probing those religious sectors bcos that is now the old foes place of solace and the new generation's foundation of corruption. I don't have problems with churches but my problem is with those handling them now..they keep printing hand bills that ends up on our roads and please who do you expect to sweep those prints. Don't preach for me,preach to those who are killing nigeria,pray to God to lead you to them and their children. By their fruits we shall know them....many churches don't even have seeds! Invest our money back into our economy and God's willing it will bear us good fruits..then we shall know that not that my people love the church but the church loves them back too.
My dear no one will miss you if you leave Mfm,my church keeps growing everyday and countless breakthroughs abound for those who are true worshippers,Offering or first fruit is NEVER by force so na you know why you really leave the church.....
satan has won in your case,you dont have to leave that church because of giving first fruit...wether you give ornotgods work continue, i pray god shld open your eyes to see the blessing of giving in his terbanacle...when you give in his sanctuary you will never regret it
Nigerians are really stupid when it comes to pastors. A friend of mine gave the money they gave him to write jamb to a pastor and has not gone to uni as a result. All I m saying is the bible can be used to manipulate people. I personally rather give my 10 percent to people in need than to churches where the pastors drive expensive cars. A lot of Nigerians forget the most important commandment is to love their neighbours as themselves. Most people are more focused on the my pastor says that they forget bout helping their fellow man. I have seen a medical practitioner abandon a patient to go for night vigil. Please don't go to a church where they hold ur blessing hostage because you don't give money to them. As a matter of fact focus on ur relationship with God and making sure to treat ur fellow man as you would ur self.
Sister, you are very ignorant. If you think you are done with church it's yourself you are actually cheating unless your motive of going to church before wasn't genuine. Giving is your willingness and between you and God. Please, grow up
MFM do not have the habit of forcing members to donate money. The Go is well respected and disciplined. If you claim one branch pastor is forcing u to obey biblical instructions by demanding u to pay ur first fruit, then, I dnt knw what to say to u. Moreover, i can't ascertain wether ur urclaim is right or not,or wether u misunderstood the preaching to be compulsion n raising of fire n brimstone. Be it as it may, you shouldn't ave come online to vent such an issue, when it only happened in one branch out of thousand branches. that's if it really happened. Also, if u are a good christain u should knw it's biblical to gv ur first seed offering.whilst it is advisable, it's not compulsory. And that shouldn't be enough reason fr you to stop worshiping God in church. While u can also worship God at home,it is also good and advisable to go to church, the house of God,n worship him with other brethen. The Bible says: when two or three are gathered in my name name(Jesus) i will be there in their midst.
MFM do not have the habit of forcing members to donate money. The Go is well respected and disciplined. If you claim one branch pastor is forcing u to obey biblical instructions by demanding u to pay ur first fruit, then, I dnt knw what to say to u. Moreover, i can't ascertain wether u ur claims is right or not,or wether u misunderstood the preaching to be compulsion n raising of fire n brimstone. Be it as it may, you shouldn't ave come online to vent such an issue, when it only happened in one branch out of thousand branches. that's if it really happened. Also, if u are a good christain u should knw it's biblical to gv ur first seed offering.whilst it is advisable, it's not compulsory. And that shouldn't be enough reason fr you to stop worshiping God in church. While u can also worship God at home,it is also good and advisable to go to church, the house of God,n worship him with other brethen. The Bible says: when two or three are gathered in my name name(Jesus) i will be there in their midst.
I do not know the orientation of your pastor and i am not sure how entirely true this story is. However, I have read comments and i was moved in my spirit to share this. There is no doubt that there are false pastors everywhere; in fact it takes the grace of God and spirit of discernment to tell the difference. Anyway, that not my main purpose of commenting. My purpose is to help through the Holy Spirit those who lack understanding in the attitude of giving. First of, you cannot give to someone you do not love or let me put it this way...you can give without loving but you cannot love without giving. When you deeply love God, i don't mean the watery statement of loving God we all make. I mean love Him DEEPLY in your heart, you will find it easier to give, you will understand where your strength in giving lies, you'll want to improve the way you give, in short, you will pray to God to help you give because giving is alot harder than receiving. I typing this, I am one of the most selfish persons anyone can come across. I didn't even realise this until I started my walk with God. Many of us are born selfish-it is a result of the fallen nature of man. Now let me break it further. First of all, I don't ever give out of compulsion. I used to do that when i was ignorant of God's Word. I must be led to do so and when the Holy Spirit tells me to give, He clearly knows the size of my pocket. Sometimes I give and i am shaken financially, other times there is really no difference in my bank account but the beautiful thing is that I ALWAYS get that money back (Well that depends on my prayer before i give). That's what seed sowing should be about. Secondly, one lesson to also know is that never give away without praying-ask God for what you need and let that go with faith of course. Trust me it works. Thirdly, always remember you are giving to God not man. So if that pastor decides to use the money for his personal business, he is answerable to God not you. Your own is to collect your blessings. The pastor may take your money for his selfish reasons but he can NEVER take away your blessings from God. Lastly, aside financial blessings, giving to God through tithe, offering, seed sowing does more for you than you can ever imagine-it is still a misery. If you are still in doubt of all I have said, take up your bible, strengthen your relationship with God and in due time He will reveal all you've always wanted to know. #donotbeinfluencedbythethingsoftheworld.
Tithing is an element of Judaism which was the religion of the Jews before the advent of Christianity and it's purpose was to support the levites who served at the temple and were not permitted to own property or do secular work under the law of Moses. Tithing has no place in christiandom as we are no longer under the law of Moses or practising the Jewish religion. Christians are enjoined to give as they are prospered, not grudgingly or by force because God loves a cheerful giver 2 corinthians 9:7. Anyone forcing you to give tithes does not understand the Bible or the tenets of Christianity. The early Christians never practised tithing. No where is it mentioned in the new testament where Christianity started. Please let's stop confusing Judaism with Christianity and limit our reference and standard to what is in the bible. Thanks
And who did the pastor give his first fruit to? The bible says money is the root of all evil..shey na lie! Muslim fanatics in the north do their type of evil but not bcos of money while our fanatic pastors in the south strategizes their own evil all bcos of money. Evil has it's roots aplenty in our churches;MONEY! From fake testimonies to arranged miracles..all in the name of creating confusion in our hearts. People now steal from companies that pay them in order to donate huge sums to churches ...all in the name of recognition. Oppression becomes a key factor. Competition between churches is now a new sport. If church 'A' buys a jet worth 5billion naira church 'B' will rubbish it by buying a jet plus helicopter. How do you expect those monies to come back in to our economy? You didn't work for the money! Nigerians are confused.....if we see a beggar plaiting hair of 5k naira,many of us might decide not to give that beggar alms again but can you differentiate the mode of operation of a beggar and our churches...yet you continue pouring your cash on these pastors just bcos they can quote a verse to support your foolishness. By 2050, we may have 10 churches on each street ....for what? Salvation or Contribution?
I attended MMFM,our General Overseer have never force anybody to pay their first fruits offering,its optional. But for you coming to Social Media to paint Mountain of Fire with a Bad Image is not right. People run to MMFM for deliverance and Solution to Long time Problem. Our Church is not Bad.
It's because of your ignorance as a Christian you will come and post such rubbish! No one should force you to pay 1st fruit and as you left, must you come a say gibberish? What do you aim to achieve by doing this? May God have mercy on you and deliver you. That's how devil will keep deceiving and using you.
Most of the pastors now in Nigeria are scammers in suits. They are not held accountable for money given to them by their members. I'll bet you if a system is put in place to hold them accountable most of the churches in Nigeria will be closed off. Nigerians open your eyes, church is business in Nigeria. The church is meant to bring social and moral change in the society. There is practically a church on every major street in Nigeria yet we are one of the most corrupt nations on earth. The monies gotten from their poor church members are used to buy expensive cars, houses, clothes, holidays, to invest in hotels, universities, houses to enrich the lives of themselves and their families. While the church members remain in the same poor state. Nigerians open your eyes, hold your pastors accountable. The money should be used also to improve the socio-economic lives of the members. 95% of Nigerian churches are fake/corrupt/hypocrites just like our governments and society at large. Stop this anointed talk. Everyone is equal before God
You dont have to come here and mention a church and say what you feel like.It is not by force .he didnt put a gun on your head.Just follow your heart and what your spirit leads you to do.The bible is our standard.
i dont understand people this days, this is a spiritual law, remember abraham when he wanted to give his frist frult which was isaac, remember the cain and ebel story.so first frult is to a today thing its been happening before now, some pastor dont even know the importance of giving their first frult and wont tell their members. as for me is pretty hard sometime i dont pay, but i paid this year sha.so madam giving is by revelation.
D day nigerians start makin use of dere reasoning faculties is d day we will progress. Imagine dose Europeans dat brought d so called religion, dey cant ask dere members to bring dere first seed of d year coz dey knw d members re enlightened already but here in naija na oversabi dey kill us. D day we start thinking critically is d day we will move forward.
if you dont have a job what will you eat through out feb.....its simple a biblical principle...its committing your year and the rest of your job into Gods hands...if u were told you will die in feb that you should bring your jan salary as a ransom for your life what will you do...be wise and dont allow the devil play tricks on u bcos of currency printed on paper...pay your first fruit n see what GOD will do...if the first fruit b holy the whole branch will b holy
Dr. D.K. Olukoya, G.O MFM, had never and would never encourage such. He is a man of disciple, honour and Virtue. MFM is a Church of virtue. If it was true, such should be reported to the Headquarters and I promise you appropriate sanctions would be taken. MFM is a Church of promise.
Nawa o..I guess he is not a pastor but a thief..sowing seed cnt b by force
ReplyDeleteTradition,Education and Religion are the worlds biggest scams!
DeleteTradition is the invisible chain used to bind our physical bodies,
Education is the perimeter fence that keeps our minds captive,
while Religion is the pair of handcuffs binding our spirit.
Once a person or organization has control of these, they enslave the captive and his offspring perpetually. Anyone who sees through these scams and wants out of this modern day slavery, is seen as a stupid outcast by fellow ‘mind prisoners’.
Imagine one lady in my office
arguing that tithe is an instruction from God, I agree, but God, in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 14
verse 22, says eat your tithe at a chosen place, the person replied me saying “God forbid!”
I showed her the bible, including the part where the instruction from God was for us to purchase the alcohol drink of our choice with our tithe (Deut 14v26) and she said “that can’t be right”……. Of course it can’t be right, your pastor knows more than God now, abi! Listen, the instruction from God is bring 10% of your crops and the
first born male of your animals.
_________________
Deut 14 v 23 “Bring this tithe to the designated place of worship—the place the LORD your God chooses for his name to be honored—and eat it there in his presence. This
applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn males of your flocks and herds.
Doing this will teach you always to fear the LORD your God.”
__________________
So let’s imagine a cattle rearer has 5 cows, and each gave birth to a female calf. That year he had increase of 5 cows, was he supposed to tithe on them? Of course not! Why? The bible said “first born male” I often wonder where these retires yahoo boys got
this 10% across board calculation for tithe, because, for a whole year, the cattle rearer was not obligated
to tithe in anyway!
During Jesus time there were
people who didn’t plant crops or rear animals, laborers, tailors,carpenters, tax collectors etc.
These people didn’t deal with crops and animals they dealt with money… Hmmmm both
Deuteronomy and Malachi talk
only about crops and animals not money! Any pastor that force tithe upon you, is a glorified yahoo boy!
~FREEZE”
Linda you refuse to post Freeze's comments on that topic. Well this is what fressze says::::: Tradition, Education and Religion are the worlds biggest scams!
DeleteTradition is the invisible chain used to bind our physical bodies,
Education is the perimeter fence that keeps our minds captive,
while Religion is the pair of handcuffs binding our spirit.
Once a person or organization has control of these, they enslave the captive and his offspring perpetually. Anyone who sees through these scams and wants out of this modern day slavery, is seen as a stupid outcast by fellow ‘mind prisoners’.
Imagine one lady in my office
arguing that tithe is an instruction from God, I agree, but God, in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 14
verse 22, says eat your tithe at a chosen place, the person replied me saying “God forbid!”
I showed her the bible, including the part where the instruction from God was for us to purchase the alcohol drink of our choice with our tithe (Deut 14v26) and she said “that can’t be right”……. Of course it can’t be right, your pastor knows more than God now, abi! Listen, the instruction from God is bring 10% of your crops and the
first born male of your animals.
_________________
Deut 14 v 23 “Bring this tithe to the designated place of worship—the place the LORD your God chooses for his name to be honored—and eat it there in his presence. This
applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn males of your flocks and herds.
Doing this will teach you always to fear the LORD your God.”
__________________
So let’s imagine a cattle rearer has 5 cows, and each gave birth to a female calf. That year he had increase of 5 cows, was he supposed to tithe on them? Of course not! Why? The bible said “first born male” I often wonder where these retires yahoo boys got
this 10% across board calculation for tithe, because, for a whole year, the cattle rearer was not obligated
to tithe in anyway!
During Jesus time there were
people who didn’t plant crops or rear animals, laborers, tailors,carpenters, tax collectors etc.
These people didn’t deal with crops and animals they dealt with money… Hmmmm both
Deuteronomy and Malachi talk
only about crops and animals not money! Any pastor that force tithe upon you, is a glorified yahoo boy!
~FREEZE”
Please read Malachi 3:10 and stop blabbing trash here. Nonsense!
DeleteIt's such a shame. Lord help us
DeleteLong Live LIB
It's such a shame. Lord help us
DeleteLong Live LIB
There is a blessing attached to "first fruit offering" and "tithes". God said he will rebuke the devourers for our sake in the bible. However, it is not by force. If you pay, you will benefit from the blessings attached to it in the bible. If you dont pay you wont benefit. It is as simple as that. It is your choice and you have the right to refuse or accept. It is not a do or die
DeleteYou should have reported the matter to the General Overseer of the church. He disciplines his pastors very well
DeleteLmao... Crazy world! The kingdom of God suffered violence and only the violence taketh it by force... #MercyLord
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Young lady Read your bible properly u will see first fruit there.
ReplyDeleteKnow your Jesus, and He is always ready to set you free... You dnt need pastor for blessing, you only need God.... Only Jesus can save
ReplyDelete............. Liber maniac..........
Hahahahaha no be by force na
ReplyDeleteNigerians wake up. It's not done like this in other parts of the world, yet Na we dey suffer pass. Stop giving these guys your hard earned cash, let them go out and work just like you do. It's just a shame really, when will this rubbish stop. Can't the government do something? This is criminal.
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ReplyDeleteScamming in the name of christ!
ReplyDeleteIt's so sad what some churches have turned into this days..feeding on people's desperation..so sad
ReplyDeleteI am welcoming her back to reality! I was done with churches since 2009! Been living fabulous since then!
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ReplyDeletesays, Genevieve.
The only true living church in the world is Catholic Church ,most of the rest churches na scam! I heard some churches now have POS 💸💰💰na wa!
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That's right sir! The Catholic Church.. The only church that molests altar boys.
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DeleteDnt spoil my church.....my GO has n will never force any one to give first fruit, so if your zonal pastor disturbs you, why not look up to the GO or look up to the Bible itself? We just serve God ignorantly this days..I'm a member of mfm but I put my first fruit offering at my wish, no body forces me..but leaving the church for just that,,meaning the devil really got you.
ReplyDeleteBut who are you to know who the devil got? Why don't you pray for sense? Dindinrin
DeleteMay God forgive you for calling me dindinrin
DeleteI am a member of Mfm nd nobody has ever force me to give my first fruit offering
DeleteThat's Yoruba pastors for u.
ReplyDeleteMust u come to social media and announce it huh?
WHY ALWAYS CHRISTIANS HUH?
Can a Muslims post some thing like this against their vampire religion huh?
Bitch if u like leave they dont know u. Millions dont know the absence of one person.
CHRISTIANITY IS THE BEST HOW I WISH AM BORN A CHRISTIAN.
#sad indeed
That's Yoruba pastors for u.
ReplyDeleteMust u come to social media and announce it huh?
WHY ALWAYS CHRISTIANS HUH?
Can a Muslims post some thing like this against their vampire religion huh?
Bitch if u like leave they dont know u. Millions dont know the absence of one person.
CHRISTIANITY IS THE BEST HOW I WISH AM BORN A CHRISTIAN.
#sad indeed
Well said, Freeborn. People are so senseless!
DeleteLindodo stop posting stuffs like this, she is ignorant
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And that's the issue with most pastors not the churches. You don't force people to give.
ReplyDeleteLIB JUDGE
MFM don't force or threaten people to bring their first fruit offering.
ReplyDeleteChurches and 419
ReplyDeletego catholic, u no go gree
ReplyDeleteWhat exactly is your reason for bringing him on social media? You present a man of God to be lashed by the world, ur koboko still dey soak for kerosene
ReplyDeleteReceive sense annon 9:16
DeleteHere the question this twat is asking. Ok, I will answer you, the same reason why God himself, Jesus his Son, the Holy Spirit, the galaxy, Earth, the president and everyone else is discussed on social media. If God himself is being talked about on social media, in comparism to that God, who the baga then is a mere 'man' of God that cannot be a subject of discussion? Nigerian Christians are a special kind of retard. Until you are able to separate God from the cultures of your local churches, you will NEVER know true peace. Jesus died for you not any rogue in suit trying to scare you into his small box - seek and focus on that Jesus and dump the rogues
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ReplyDeleteTHIS IS ALL SHADES OF WRONG,IS ME AND MY GOD,NOT PASTOR,PASTOR WEY BE MAN LIKE ME.
ReplyDeleteGOD HELP US ALL,HEAVEN IS REALLY FAR FOR SOME PEOPLE.
THIS IS ALL SHADES OF WRONG,IS ME AND MY GOD,NOT PASTOR,PASTOR WEY BE MAN LIKE ME.
ReplyDeleteGOD HELP US ALL,HEAVEN IS REALLY FAR FOR SOME PEOPLE.
Hehehe! Linda take note!
ReplyDeleteNormal way of life in Pentecostal churches. My dear go Orthodox. You can't see a Catholic priest or Anglican asking for your first fruit abi tree.
ReplyDeleteThey have started oh.... My priest announced if one doesn't pay tithe and offering every Sunday, they shouldn't ask for blessings or prayers from him.
DeleteIn the things of God and church, we need to be careful, the bible seems be contradictory so u need to understand it very well. Fela wrote a song on this, so follow ur heart when given, it is not under conpulsion
ReplyDeleteU don't have to come on social media to make all dis noise jhor with ur makeup... dee
ReplyDeleteOgbeni deesease, and you don't have to comment jor...
Deletehmmm! it usually a had decision to make to pay ones first fruit. It is easy for those who have enough already and won't feel it if they give their first year salary. It is very difficult for those whose salary is not even enough for the month let alone having excess to save or spend if they give that one all out. It happened to me. when I got my new job I gave my first fruit. It takes grace my Dear. Just see it that you are giving it to God not to your Pastor. Then tell that God to protect you and your job through out that year. If you do not have the grace please don't give cause that will mean grumbling and no blessings comes with that. I 100% disagree with all Pastors that force people to give and go to the extent of causing them and putting fear in them by using terrible words to pray. That is evil, it is not from God. My former Pastor once said that the congregation should help him that if anyone leaves his church the person will not prosper or do well thereafter. That prompted my Husband to say we should leave the church. Since we left, things are far much better for us now compared to then. We have achieved a lot and still achieving. God will help the Church of this age and help our Pastors.
ReplyDeleteAunty, nobody is forcing u to bring firstfruit, maybe u misinterpreted his preaching, anyway we don't need people like u in our church, am a living testimony to first fruit offering so pls buzz off. One lest judgmental person out of our church d breakthrough will go around
ReplyDeleteMay be d way d msg was passed was wrong but u God never owes any man anything. He gave u all u have n he'll never lv i hungry if u gv to Him.
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Nna and am sure many fell for the trick.. Nigerians are smart but when it involve pastors they become MUMU.... Gud to knw you escaped b4 it is too late....
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ReplyDeleteLOL, SOME PASTORS SEF CAN STUPIDLY THREATEN SOMEONE'S LIFE WITH NONSENSE, I DON'T EVEN GIVE IN TO THOSE THREATS.
ReplyDeleteAUNTY LINDA 👩
Is only God that can help us most pastors has turn and misinterpret d bible, may God help us.
ReplyDeleteYou and your leaving mfm is so inconsequential. Go study the Bible, even though no pastor is to judge, his is to preach the word and you are to either heed or continue to rationalize God's commandments. .
ReplyDeleteREAD MORE OF BIBLE GO TO THE BOOK MALACHI 3:1-17 AND READ TRU IT AM A BONIFIED MEMBER OF MFM AND ITS NOT A MOST TO PAY UR FIRST FRIUT! I AND MY HOUSEHOLD HAVE BEEN PAYINGS OURS AND OUR RAIN OF BLESSINGS HAS NEVER STOPED THE BLESSINGS IS JUST TOO MUCH! WITH YOUR FAITH OF SOWING UR FIRST FRUIT! I PRAY GOD OPENS HER EYES AND ENLIGHTEN HER IGNORANCE! JUST AS ITS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE THAT MY PEOPLE PERISH FROM LACK OF KNOWLEDGE!
ReplyDeleteSo he should threaten fire and brimstone upon anyone who refuses? Shouldnt God be the judge of that? I can see u really dont ve sense..and for u to even type in capslock makes it so disgusting .
DeleteI CAN SEE UR BRAIN HAVE BEING INFECTED WITH THIS BUHARI HUNGER REGIME! DONT READ WITH UR ANUS BUT WITH UR EYES READ CLEARLY WHAT I WROTE I DID NOT SAY SHE DID ANY WRONG BUT TO STUDY HER BIBLE THE MORE! AND AS ME TYPING IN CAPSLOCK N UR HURTING, HEY KIDDO FEEL FREE TO CHOWK ON UR ANDROID UR USING TO TYPE NONSENSE! AM OUT OF HERE
DeleteUR SENSE HAVE BEING EATEN UP BY THE VIRUS DETECTED IN UR BRAIN! UR HERE HATING ON A COMMENT U DONT EVEN KNOW WHO POSTED IT AND LINDA KEEP GIVING ALL THIS SMALL KIDS WITH ANDROID PHONES CHANCE TO DE COME TO TYPE RUBBISH HERE WEY DEM SUPPOSE DE SCHOOL OR HOUSE DE WASH PLATE
DeleteNo one will force you to do that in MFM, you probably left because of other reasons! Be truthful to yourself, obviously you could not stand the prayers that destroyed your mission there! We sure know your type, agents of darkness!
ReplyDeleteGod bless you ,exactly my thoughts!
DeleteAh, you're one of them. This one's who think every one against a particular doctrine is evil. Do you know how stupid you sound?
DeleteYou have judged the poor lady already...your judgment awaits you. Jesus said...Judge not that you be not judged. Matt 7:1.
Delete@Anon 10.14 Don't judge, calling her agent of darkness is judging. She may be purer than you but just ignorant
Delete@ Doublehay, paying offering tithes and firstfruit is God's instruction and biblical.
May He give you the strength to understand the power of tithing and giving cos tithers and givers never lack. When you give your tithes and firstfruit, God himself will provide for you
He gave you that job/salary he can take it from you, get you promoted even give you a bigger one, giving opens doors
The Pastor is meant to let u understand the reason God asked to give and benefit of giving not FORCE and CURSE, that is where he went wrong
But my dear, adopt the giving life, do not look at any pastor but focus on the word, the truth will set you free.
I taught same, cos from her dp, she doesn't look like an MFM member. She came to do something else there and it didn't work.
DeleteYoung woman, you lack the understanding. No pastor forces anyone to bring all collected in January, it is just between you and your God. And in all you do apply wisdom.
ReplyDeleteMay God bless you.
GOD BLESS U ANON WHO SAID THE IDIOT CANNOT WITHSTAND THE PRAYERS THERE! PLS HELP ME SHEF MORE LIGHT TO THE SO CALLED VIRUS DETECTED BRAIN LIKE FISH GIRL OR BOY TYPING RUBBISH WITH ANDROID KPALASA!
DeleteDon't mind them, pastors too like thithe and offerings.Their members will be trekking to church while they drive around with big big jeep.
ReplyDeleteLol thunder fire dat pastor.He is to encounter not force
ReplyDeleteHahahahahahahahaha,funny
ReplyDeleteLib addict#just passing#
LOL. You're so DONE, hun. All these new generation churches shud fear God and emulate Jesus not MONEY!
ReplyDeleteLet each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.-2 Corinthans 9:7. Please try to visit the Kingdom-hall of Jehovah's Witnesses. visit their website (www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/meetings/) to search for the nearest Congregation Meetings of Jehovah’s Witnesses
ReplyDeleteFoolish Christians, this one is a suckling Christian cos she obviously doesn't know d word, if she did nobody would force her to do anything or leave d church. Mumu Christians who complain about d church, weda it is d pastor u are going to church for or God. U foolishly posted dis on social media since ur generation is all about social media, tomorrow u will be looking for how to take it down or take back wat u said.
ReplyDeleteThis has been happening and won't stop happening until we Africans stop being gullible and wake up to reality.
ReplyDeleteReligion has really eaten us up here in Africa.
We believe and do whatever these so called Pastors and Imams say all the time forgetting the fact that we are all equal in the eyes of God, don't wanna sound like a preacher though but the fact still remains that we Africans are so gullible and really blinded by these Religious heads.
They have been milking us since God knows when, they live in the best houses, drive the best cars, send their children to the best schools out of what the so called followers contributes monthly or annually..
The true definition of a person do not lie in his religion but his character.
Only God Almighty knows who worships him truely.
This has been happening and won't stop happening until we Africans stop being gullible and wake up to reality.
ReplyDeleteReligion has really eaten us up here in Africa.
We believe and do whatever these so called Pastors and Imams say all the time forgetting the fact that we are all equal in the eyes of God, don't wanna sound like a preacher though but the fact still remains that we Africans are so gullible and really blinded by these Religious heads.
They have been milking us since God knows when, they live in the best houses, drive the best cars, send their children to the best schools out of what the so called followers contributes monthly or annually..
The true definition of a person do not lie in his religion but his character.
Only God Almighty knows who worships him truely.
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ReplyDeleteit is biblical and not by force
ReplyDeleteGiving is sacrificial,it is not always easy and it shouldn't be done when we have enough.we should actually learn to sow and stop complaining because when we sow we are blessed.though it shouldn't be by force but it should also become part of us
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It is biblical. We cannot understand the spiritual things. God who provided the first fruit will surely make a way to sustain you throughout the month. A trial will convince you. IT IS A MATTER OF CHOICE. CHOOSE THE RIGHT!
ReplyDeleteThey need more private jets! Packing our hard-earned money out of the economy and yet they are shouting recession. They are so powerful to identify witches in the church but so blind to see those members who are looting our national treasury. They need whatever money from whatever means from whatever f**king motherf**kers. Cowards they are! Even lord Jesus became violent when he found gamblers in the temple but our pastors love for money means that any money that enters the church is automatically sanctified and the benefactor is blessed. Churches are now built and sustained with stolen treasuries,yahoo money and all other sorts. When you keep our money in your bank accounts without any knowledge of how to re-invest it directly back into the economy...they now place church workers on salaries from donations and offerings. If half of redeem churches in nigeria are business centers...we won't be talking about unemployment. The more the churches,the more corrupt nigerians are, the more we have militants,...Pastors are well appreciated in nigeria so stay here and pray for nigeria and until there is goodness. What then do you need jets for..to fly and pray for US or UK economy...(jokers!) Billions of naira lie in your accounts waiting to be spent on new jets abi? No be so! You are a great part of this corruption and God knows it. People are fooled by their humble looks but for how long....we are not being blessed despite having more than 10000 churches, nigeria is perishing bcos of lack of knowledge...EFCC needs to start probing those religious sectors bcos that is now the old foes place of solace and the new generation's foundation of corruption. I don't have problems with churches but my problem is with those handling them now..they keep printing hand bills that ends up on our roads and please who do you expect to sweep those prints. Don't preach for me,preach to those who are killing nigeria,pray to God to lead you to them and their children. By their fruits we shall know them....many churches don't even have seeds! Invest our money back into our economy and God's willing it will bear us good fruits..then we shall know that not that my people love the church but the church loves them back too.
ReplyDeleteBest comment, Many Nigerians are ignorant and guilable. We did not think for our shelves or ask the right questions. We are a zombified nation.
DeleteMy dear no one will miss you if you leave Mfm,my church keeps growing everyday and countless breakthroughs abound for those who are true worshippers,Offering or first fruit is NEVER by force so na you know why you really leave the church.....
ReplyDeleteLol that's hilarious
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satan has won in your case,you dont have to leave that church because of giving first fruit...wether you give ornotgods work continue, i pray god shld open your eyes to see the blessing of giving in his terbanacle...when you give in his sanctuary you will never regret it
ReplyDeleteSatan will win in your case, your family and your finances.
DeleteNigerians are really stupid when it comes to pastors. A friend of mine gave the money they gave him to write jamb to a pastor and has not gone to uni as a result. All I m saying is the bible can be used to manipulate people. I personally rather give my 10 percent to people in need than to churches where the pastors drive expensive cars. A lot of Nigerians forget the most important commandment is to
ReplyDeletelove their neighbours as themselves. Most people are more focused on the my pastor says that they forget bout helping their fellow man. I have seen a medical practitioner abandon a patient to go for night vigil. Please don't go to a church where they hold ur blessing hostage because you don't give money to them. As a matter of fact focus on ur relationship with God and making sure to treat ur fellow man as you would ur self.
Sister, you are very ignorant. If you think you are done with church it's yourself you are actually cheating unless your motive of going to church before wasn't genuine. Giving is your willingness and between you and God. Please, grow up
ReplyDeletethis lady misunderstood the pastor...it is not in the doctrine of m.f.m to force their member to pay first fruit...leaving the church is baseless
ReplyDeleteMFM do not have the habit of forcing members to donate money. The Go is well respected and disciplined. If you claim one branch pastor is forcing u to obey biblical instructions by demanding u to pay ur first fruit, then, I dnt knw what to say to u. Moreover, i can't ascertain wether ur urclaim is right or not,or wether u misunderstood the preaching to be compulsion n raising of fire n brimstone. Be it as it may, you shouldn't ave come online to vent such an issue, when it only happened in one branch out of thousand branches. that's if it really happened. Also, if u are a good christain u should knw it's biblical to gv ur first seed offering.whilst it is advisable, it's not compulsory. And that shouldn't be enough reason fr you to stop worshiping God in church. While u can also worship God at home,it is also good and advisable to go to church, the house of God,n worship him with other brethen. The Bible says: when two or three are gathered in my name name(Jesus) i will be there in their midst.
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ReplyDeleteMFM do not have the habit of forcing members to donate money. The Go is well respected and disciplined. If you claim one branch pastor is forcing u to obey biblical instructions by demanding u to pay ur first fruit, then, I dnt knw what to say to u. Moreover, i can't ascertain wether u ur claims is right or not,or wether u misunderstood the preaching to be compulsion n raising of fire n brimstone. Be it as it may, you shouldn't ave come online to vent such an issue, when it only happened in one branch out of thousand branches. that's if it really happened. Also, if u are a good christain u should knw it's biblical to gv ur first seed offering.whilst it is advisable, it's not compulsory. And that shouldn't be enough reason fr you to stop worshiping God in church. While u can also worship God at home,it is also good and advisable to go to church, the house of God,n worship him with other brethen. The Bible says: when two or three are gathered in my name name(Jesus) i will be there in their midst.
ReplyDeleteI do not know the orientation of your pastor and i am not sure how entirely true this story is. However, I have read comments and i was moved in my spirit to share this. There is no doubt that there are false pastors everywhere; in fact it takes the grace of God and spirit of discernment to tell the difference. Anyway, that not my main purpose of commenting. My purpose is to help through the Holy Spirit those who lack understanding in the attitude of giving.
ReplyDeleteFirst of, you cannot give to someone you do not love or let me put it this way...you can give without loving but you cannot love without giving. When you deeply love God, i don't mean the watery statement of loving God we all make. I mean love Him DEEPLY in your heart, you will find it easier to give, you will understand where your strength in giving lies, you'll want to improve the way you give, in short, you will pray to God to help you give because giving is alot harder than receiving. I typing this, I am one of the most selfish persons anyone can come across. I didn't even realise this until I started my walk with God. Many of us are born selfish-it is a result of the fallen nature of man. Now let me break it further.
First of all, I don't ever give out of compulsion. I used to do that when i was ignorant of God's Word. I must be led to do so and when the Holy Spirit tells me to give, He clearly knows the size of my pocket. Sometimes I give and i am shaken financially, other times there is really no difference in my bank account but the beautiful thing is that I ALWAYS get that money back (Well that depends on my prayer before i give). That's what seed sowing should be about.
Secondly, one lesson to also know is that never give away without praying-ask God for what you need and let that go with faith of course. Trust me it works.
Thirdly, always remember you are giving to God not man. So if that pastor decides to use the money for his personal business, he is answerable to God not you. Your own is to collect your blessings. The pastor may take your money for his selfish reasons but he can NEVER take away your blessings from God.
Lastly, aside financial blessings, giving to God through tithe, offering, seed sowing does more for you than you can ever imagine-it is still a misery.
If you are still in doubt of all I have said, take up your bible, strengthen your relationship with God and in due time He will reveal all you've always wanted to know. #donotbeinfluencedbythethingsoftheworld.
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Tithing is an element of Judaism which was the religion of the Jews before the advent of Christianity and it's purpose was to support the levites who served at the temple and were not permitted to own property or do secular work under the law of Moses. Tithing has no place in christiandom as we are no longer under the law of Moses or practising the Jewish religion. Christians are enjoined to give as they are prospered, not grudgingly or by force because God loves a cheerful giver 2 corinthians 9:7. Anyone forcing you to give tithes does not understand the Bible or the tenets of Christianity. The early Christians never practised tithing. No where is it mentioned in the new testament where Christianity started. Please let's stop confusing Judaism with Christianity and limit our reference and standard to what is in the bible. Thanks
ReplyDeleteAnd who did the pastor give his first fruit to? The bible says money is the root of all evil..shey na lie! Muslim fanatics in the north do their type of evil but not bcos of money while our fanatic pastors in the south strategizes their own evil all bcos of money. Evil has it's roots aplenty in our churches;MONEY! From fake testimonies to arranged miracles..all in the name of creating confusion in our hearts. People now steal from companies that pay them in order to donate huge sums to churches ...all in the name of recognition. Oppression becomes a key factor. Competition between churches is now a new sport. If church 'A' buys a jet worth 5billion naira church 'B' will rubbish it by buying a jet plus helicopter. How do you expect those monies to come back in to our economy? You didn't work for the money! Nigerians are confused.....if we see a beggar plaiting hair of 5k naira,many of us might decide not to give that beggar alms again but can you differentiate the mode of operation of a beggar and our churches...yet you continue pouring your cash on these pastors just bcos they can quote a verse to support your foolishness. By 2050, we may have 10 churches on each street ....for what? Salvation or Contribution?
ReplyDeleteI attended MMFM,our General Overseer have never force anybody to pay their first fruits offering,its optional. But for you coming to Social Media to paint Mountain of Fire with a Bad Image is not right. People run to MMFM for deliverance and Solution to Long time Problem. Our Church is not Bad.
ReplyDeleteTry that ish in a white man's land and you'll be a homeless guy. Simple.
ReplyDeletewhy.
ReplyDeleteIt's because of your ignorance as a Christian you will come and post such rubbish! No one should force you to pay 1st fruit and as you left, must you come a say gibberish? What do you aim to achieve by doing this? May God have mercy on you and deliver you. That's how devil will keep deceiving and using you.
ReplyDeleteMost of the pastors now in Nigeria are scammers in suits. They are not held accountable for money given to them by their members. I'll bet you if a system is put in place to hold them accountable most of the churches in Nigeria will be closed off. Nigerians open your eyes, church is business in Nigeria. The church is meant to bring social and moral change in the society. There is practically a church on every major street in Nigeria yet we are one of the most corrupt nations on earth. The monies gotten from their poor church members are used to buy expensive cars, houses, clothes, holidays, to invest in hotels, universities, houses to enrich the lives of themselves and their families. While the church members remain in the same poor state. Nigerians open your eyes, hold your pastors accountable. The money should be used also to improve the socio-economic lives of the members. 95% of Nigerian churches are fake/corrupt/hypocrites just like our governments and society at large. Stop this anointed talk. Everyone is equal before God
ReplyDeleteYou dont have to come here and mention a church and say what you feel like.It is not by force .he didnt put a gun on your head.Just follow your heart and what your spirit leads you to do.The bible is our standard.
ReplyDeletei dont understand people this days, this is a spiritual law, remember abraham when he wanted to give his frist frult which was isaac, remember the cain and ebel story.so first frult is to a today thing its been happening before now, some pastor dont even know the importance of giving their first frult and wont tell their members. as for me is pretty hard sometime i dont pay, but i paid this year sha.so madam giving is by revelation.
ReplyDeleteHehehe... #Lindatakenote
ReplyDeleteOmo ibo jatejate. They love money too much. So tight fisted and money hungry. Leave church na. You wont be missed
ReplyDeleteD day nigerians start makin use of dere reasoning faculties is d day we will progress. Imagine dose Europeans dat brought d so called religion, dey cant ask dere members to bring dere first seed of d year coz dey knw d members re enlightened already but here in naija na oversabi dey kill us. D day we start thinking critically is d day we will move forward.
ReplyDeleteif you dont have a job what will you eat through out feb.....its simple a biblical principle...its committing your year and the rest of your job into Gods hands...if u were told you will die in feb that you should bring your jan salary as a ransom for your life what will you do...be wise and dont allow the devil play tricks on u bcos of currency printed on paper...pay your first fruit n see what GOD will do...if the first fruit b holy the whole branch will b holy
ReplyDeleteDr. D.K. Olukoya, G.O MFM, had never and would never encourage such. He is a man of disciple, honour and Virtue. MFM is a Church of virtue. If it was true, such should be reported to the Headquarters and I promise you appropriate sanctions would be taken. MFM is a Church of promise.
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ReplyDeleteHahahahaahah, very funny indeed
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