Punch reports
More than 100,000 people were said to be gathered at the venue of the incident, with facilities that can hardly take 5,000 people, when the stampede occurred. The tragic incident has already become political, as the camps of Governor Peter Obi and Senator Chris Ngige are trading blame over the incident.
About 200 victims that survived the stampede were taken hospitals in Onitsha and Nkpor where a lot of them were treated and discharged.*Viewer discretion advised*. Graphic pics after the cut...
The incident occurred shortly after Governor Peter Obi, the governorship candidate for the All progressives Grand Alliance, Chief Willie Obiano; and the National Chairman of APGA, Chief Victor Umeh, among others left the place after an all-night church programme.
Obi, who later on visited hospitals, where the survivors of the stampede were being attended to, promised to set up a panel to investigate the cause of the stampede.
The Anambra State Police Public Relations Officer, Mr. Emeka Chukwuemeka , confirmed the incident but said he could not give figures or state the cause of the incident because investigations were still going on to establish the cause of the incident.
The Founder and Spiritual Director of the Holy Ghost Adoration Centre, Rev. Fr. Emmanuel Obinma, a Catholic priest popularly called Ebube Mmuonso (the glory of the Holy Ghost), also went round to see and pray for the survivors.
He, however, said he was still too shocked to comment on the incident.
May their souls rest in peace.
ReplyDelete~BONARIO~says so via NOKIA3310
....after u go church finish....Country still in a mess....#NigeriaSeriousHeartBreaker
ReplyDeleteNigerians are the daftest people on earth. Instead of choosing good leaders, everybody rushes to church for miracles. Idiots!
DeleteAwful really sad, its right there 5,000 capacity and he's saying he will set up a panel to know the cause of the stampede really stupid inidividual
ReplyDeleteGood Grief!!!Wat couldve caused this?*sobs*
ReplyDeletePlease let the truth be told... The stampede was caused by Peter Obi's men as dey rush to get the individuals chanting "onwa"... I can c d reason why politicians here in Nigeria should be using their authority to cover heinious crimes...
ReplyDeleteBlack liar, where u there? I live in onitsha, and I was there, Peter obi and his men left d venue at abt 3.am while d incident happened around 5am, while pple were trying to move out some pple started shouting fire/snake,dats wat caused d stampede. Get ur facts right. #sillyNgigefan#
DeleteIf ur saying that truth be told then say the truth don't talk rubbish or being political wt peoples life, peter Obi or Apga that went their never caused any stampede, the stampede happened around past 6am while Obi and his people had left the ground btw 3 and 4am, pls a lot harm was done already so stop peddling lies upon that. Thanks
DeleteNa politics go peaces nigeria omg God save us o what a pity cant watch
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Crowd control mechanisms, protocols officers, fire and emergency exits are all legal requirements for public shows and massive congregation.
ReplyDeleteNigeria LEARN!!! and stop wasting people's lives to frivolous occurrences that could have been averted.
God!!! people die and waste away for all the minute reasons, this is utterly ridiculous.....#SeunLondon
Nigerians and this they church things,must people go to that holy ghost watever in de name of seaking Gods face when my good lord is everywhere.may God help us, i don talk my own.
ReplyDeletelin.
Na wahhin the house of God? Please I'm interested in the cause of this stampede abeg! I can imagine! Coz the crowd at that Adoration ground is always nothing to write home about!
ReplyDeletepurely, dat stampede started as a result of fire outbreak from a hot fryin oil. D akara woman was by d road bt d crowd were nt patient enough to take turns nd pass tru d exit door. Dis les to pouring away of the oil nd d next avaiable car caught fire. People tot it was bomb nd started running nd d most vulnerable 'mainly children nd women' were pushed down nd trampled upon. My sister was did yday nd i also lost a ten yr broda too. May dia souls rest in peace.
DeleteMay deir soul rest in peace
DeleteSomething is definitely wrong.
ReplyDeleteIts not d govonor oh, its people who hear and act instead of see b4 acting! On d oda hand, I knw I will read many coments of Ritual. But wat ever it is I or any member of my family shall not die b4 our tym nt for politicians nd 4 anytin!!!
ReplyDeleteInvestigation on whz caused the stampede???
ReplyDeleteThey wnt to the church to pray for the government to give them a better life for themselves and their children.. If they had all the social amenities do u tink dey wld all gather in a place that can contain half of them NO they wld nt... This country is jst messed up and truely i feel for our generation.
Omg..so pathetic,such an eyesaw. Kai n dey passing blames rather dan look forwrd!God help ur own
ReplyDeleteFrom one church to d oda! Ngwanu na church abi wetin kill dis ones now?!
ReplyDeleteWhich kind miracle them dem find wey dem no fit stay for there houses pray to baba God directly?
All i can say is choi!!!
Endtimetinz
What do you knw about rather than to eat and shit..... As if you knw the kinda life problems they're passing through
DeleteAre u really that jobless
DeleteMake them tell us true wetin dem use their heads do?!
ReplyDelete#Sacrificial lambs
Oo!! Ije uwa Odi nfe?!
ReplyDeleteMber month tinz! We know
ReplyDeletePoverty can do nd undo, turning a religious gathering into a political warfront to gain masses support
ReplyDeleteI reject every spirit of untimely death in my life, my family, loved ones, friends, libers n even my enemies in JESUS name Amen!!!
ReplyDeleteI know say some pple go nearly quench
ReplyDeletecos i post more dan once.
Una pele o!
No be me do una!
Hahaha...funny! I swear this rough diamond is useless.
DeleteI LOVE my life!
ReplyDeleteGod has been good to me n his mercies endureth in my life!
Baba God u too gbaski!
Why do we have government when we can always set up a " panel" to rule us..... Anyways I'm a Christian to begin n I totally dislike all these holy ghost conferences trust me I do! these pastors only gather people to donate five times per night nothing is happening except fake miracles n because our people r so blinded they follow sheepishly giving their all to people who are not worth it!
ReplyDeleteAkoba adaba Olorun maje ka ri!!
ReplyDeleteRough Diamond ur head too strong!
ReplyDeleteOluwa dey involved for ur life!
Carry dey go!!!
Something is wrong, people truly seeking God should not die like this in the house of God... What is hidden to the face of men, his clearly opened to the eyes of a god, may the souls of the departed rest in peace.
ReplyDeleteNa waoo!!wat could really be d course?untimely death,may dea souls rest in peace
ReplyDeleteSomething is wrong, people truly seeking God should not die like this in the house of God... What is hidden to the face of men, his clearly opened to the eyes of a God, may the souls of the departed rest in peace.
ReplyDeleteStill can't belive this and wonder wat realy happened...oh God! Have mercy
ReplyDeleteHoly grail... Well .. One thing is sure.. Dis crime is against God not man/Allah not man.. Definately d judgement is on.. Even on earth..... Bia linda past ma coment oo. Bcos u don sleep.. N me still kicking. Smart. P.
ReplyDeletedat waz the handi-work of the devil ,its a pity for the victims and thier family*SMH*persin go church go meet him death.and now they blame it on peter obi,thank God for my cuzin brother's life.
ReplyDeleteLinda u too like plenty grammar. Which one kon be stampede again? Abeg break am down biko
ReplyDeleteNgige should advise his supporters, it was caused by NGIGE supporters....Peter Obi came for prayers, why should NGIGE supporters begin to cause problems in the house of God?
ReplyDeleteOkikiola
It wasn't cause by anyone both peter obi and ngige, get ur fact right before u comment
DeleteDs one no be church again oh...wt kind of stupid stampede is ds..haba..
ReplyDeleteNobody should call Ngige,cos he wasn't there when it happened,God has a way of doing things,Adaobi and his yoyo willie willie were busy levelling all kinds of allegation on Ngige,now,everything has turned around...is the house of God suppose 2 be a place 2 do his stupid Campaign? Apga is a cursed party peter obi and victor umeh killed APGA when they shot the party's door to the party's brightest. Its a self inflicted injury.... so Ndi Igbo weep not! Unu anugo
ReplyDeleteNa tear-gas peter obi's security use kill pple o
ReplyDeleteStampede of what ???
ReplyDeleteMay God expose and punish those behind the evil act.
ReplyDeleteEternal rest grant unto their souls O Lord and let perpetual light Shine upon them,May they rest in perfect peace Amen.
ReplyDeleteIt Ñ Î›S really a sad news any way! But †Ñ’ξ truth ØŦ †Ñ’ξ matter È‹̝̊̅§ ðï§ ! Over population ØŦ ppl! And congestion! ♑ space 4 ppl to breath! Some wia fainted!some wia step upon on try to pick dia slippers or personal belonging! Dia Ñ Î›S a push when they shouted fire fire! †Ñ’ξ place wia so crowded !
ReplyDeleteHow on earth would 100,000 people cluster in a space that is meant for 5,000 persons. Nigerians should be very careful the way the conduct their daily lives these days. For the days are evil. Being poor & religious should not becloud our sense of reasoning & judgement. There are bunch of evil men & women who are bent on diabolically & maliciously manipulating the poor & uninformed in order to achieve their devilish & selfish goals. These satanic individuals are both in the political and religious circle. We should beware of not only our politicians but also our so called "religious icons". The painful thing is, the biting socio- economic hardship in Nigeria has made so many to lose their minds in their desperate search for immediate solutions to their problems. This is quite pathetic...!
ReplyDeleteWhat is this one saying, if u don't knw what to say just shut up ur mouth
DeleteNawa 4 nigeria occurence!
ReplyDeleteMay der soul rest in peace, baba God na u head we dey o,hmmmmmm
ReplyDeletePls libers wat is STAPEDE?
ReplyDeletePple looking for miracle every. Where may there soul rest in peace
ReplyDeleteIt's pathetic!
ReplyDelete-Yemoh.
Quite un4tunate! See wat false alarm can cause.RIP 2d lost souls
ReplyDeleteMay God rest there soul and have mercy on us..
ReplyDeleteChineke mooooo! Kai! Am shocked! Dnt evn know what to write. May their souls rest with d Lord. If there's any of ds stupid comments made on dis den God judge u. Pple pls let's pray de rest in peace and d recovery of d ones in d hospital in Jesus name. Pls Lord guide n protect us. Hieeeee!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteunbelievable. my God! How many of us will see this new ,,year. please have Mercy
ReplyDeleteJesus christ of nazareth it was sumfin else,I lost a fwend dere
ReplyDeleteMay their soul rest in peace(AMEN).
ReplyDeleteunforseen tragedy..Rip to the deceased and may d almighty God console their bereaved.Amen..
ReplyDeleteVery sad
ReplyDeleteHmmmmmmm y won't dis so called politician leave d pple of God alone?anyways may dia souls rip,,,and 4 d wounded ones. Get well soon....
ReplyDeleteGod forbid bad tin
ReplyDeleteJeeeeezzzzz...... What a tragedy God pls come to our aid..... May their souls rest in perfect peace.. Amen
ReplyDeleteLin Lin na lie. Infact, Peter Obi and Willie Obiano together with their armed men caused this stampede. This is just another political ish btw Peter Obi and Ngige. May the families of the deceased take heart. Its really a pity.
ReplyDeleteLair am not supporting anybody but get ur fact correct, were u there. You are cursed
DeleteGory! :(
ReplyDeleteStampede for church? When have they started church for political campaign? APGA should just count themselves out of the elections.
ReplyDeleteOhhh God hve mercy dats all I can say..
ReplyDeleteAnybody who takes a child to all night vigil and deprived him or her of sleep should be jailed.
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Well.....frm church to heaven.....nice way to die....
ReplyDeleteHmmmm...frm church to heaven....nice way to die
ReplyDeleteIF NA PENTECOSTAL CHURCH NOW OR NEW GENERATION CHURCH, ALL THOSE STUPID PEOPLE WILL BE ASKING GOVERNMENT TO CLOSE DOWN THE CHURCH...
ReplyDeleteIT CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE
God please have mercy on us,save us from these carnibals.
ReplyDeleteBiko ebube mmuonso is nt a catholic priest jor.. He has a ministry we'r pple go nd see him for counsellin.. Infact he's jus a prophet.. If u go der u wuld b askd to barb ur head and after dat u wil was it wit water frm coconut.. He's nt a catholic at all talk more of bein a cath priest.. I'm very sure..
ReplyDeleteWho is not a catholic Priest. Rev fr Emmanuel Obinma.pls say d one u know nd don't invoke d wrath of God.
DeleteSay wat u know block head.He is a priest n a priest forever in d cath church.thank me later
DeleteShout up if u don't know what to comment.
DeleteU r very stupid person for making dis coment, don't let the holy spirt visit u, this is how u pple carry fake new all over d place, a Rev father in my parish, St charles borromeo, may God forgive u Fool. Jesus u are so sure wish I can see ur face
DeleteGod punish u there for making such statement.u must be from the pit of hell.how on earth will u say what u don't know?Ebube muonso is a parish vicar in my parish st Charles borromoe nkpor get ur fact right b4 posting any rubbish.don't involve the wrath of God upon u.devil incarnate
DeleteWatch your tongue, sin against the Holy Spirit cannot be Forgiven and touch not God,s Annoited
DeleteHow can u say something u're Not sure Of? I don't want to curse u but watch ur words and what u Say! He's a catholic priest he's iN St charles Borromeo Nkpor in Anambra State,,he was even d one that Baptised my God daugther I was there Life. So think b4 u Speak Rubbish.
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ReplyDeleteWas he nt d 1 dat gave prophecy dat willie wil b d next governor.. Believe me dat man is nt a priest.. I can evn give u his address.. One of d victims dat died is my mums sales gal so I'm very sure of dat.. He does nt evn put on a priest attire nt evn once .. Pls post my comment cos dis is d first tym I'm commentin nd dats bcos I'm very sure of wat I'm sayin..
ReplyDeleteI don't knw what to tell u, if really u do come to adoration u will knw that for once he has never said sort a tin, this is how u pple carry fake news, don't let the holy spirit visit u
DeleteU are a fool for life for saying that.fr emmaunel obimma aka Ebube muonso is a ordained priest of God and his parish is saint Charles borromoe in Nkpor Anambra.that is how u people conmdem a man of God.and involving the wrath of God on you.I Neva fail his Thursday Adoration and vigil every first Friday of the month.Don't worry for saying this kind of thing against an ordained man the holy spirit will visit ur home and be ready to pay for ur actions.blatant liar
DeleteWhy were they running? That wasn't stated LINDA Ooº°˚˚°ÂºÂº
ReplyDeleteJesus christ!!!what were they running for?why should there be a stampede?they wuld hv just still,what is d govnr lookg 4 there!!!this is so upsetg.OMG!!
ReplyDeleteN nw ð@ an election is abt 2 tk plaz in Anambra is wen *d so calld stampede indeed is takin plaz*n ð Gov ws blamin supotas of oposition party*who does ð@ to ð dead* I SUSPECT smtyn fishy here.
ReplyDeleteBiko ebube mmuonso is nt a catholic priest jor.. He has a ministry we'r pple go nd see him for counsellin.. Infact he's jus a prophet.. If u go der u wuld b askd to barb ur head and after dat u wil was it wit water frm coconut.. He's nt a catholic at all talk more of bein a cath priest.. I'm very sure..
ReplyDeleteFOOL, you are cursed
Delete@ Anonymous 8:29am and 8:16am, Watch ur comment before ÐŽ☺ΰ attract Gods wrath.
DeleteWe still didn't knw what really went down, is sort of attack, God pls I put Rev Fr emmauel Obimma aka ebube muonso into ur care n gv him the strenght to continue in ur work. All dis politicain pls stay away from our adoration, we don't need u pple help we d adoration children are already blessed we don't u pple blood moni. God bless ebube muonso, God bless the adoration children God bless nigeria. In btw linda d cause of the death is not cos of too many crowd, get ur fact right what crowd can b compare to the one in the adoration ground on penticost day, yet nothing happen
ReplyDeleteOMG! This is so sad. May their souls RIP. Sad!
ReplyDeletethis is exactlywhat will happen if you include religion into politics
ReplyDeleteGod where ar u?????????
ReplyDeleteChineke!!!
ReplyDeleteNigerians! only God will help us.
ReplyDeleteThis is terrible ooo, so many tinz are happening!
ReplyDeleteWhy this come happen for my home town ni,nawaoh
ReplyDeleteNa dis state I dey go serve o....I nor dey go again o....mk I re-delopy o.
ReplyDeleteLord have mercy........ The way lives are lost these....... Please let's turn to God, we dnt know the time we will be called.
ReplyDeleteYou know it's bad when they take politics to church. Mercy Oh Lord
ReplyDeleteThis people are using church as a political tool to control human mind. May their gentle souls rest in perfect peace!
ReplyDeleteJesus!! May their souls RIP... And why on earth is the lady's shirt up?... Did they sexually assult the lady too?
ReplyDeletePoverty. Poverty. Poverty. Makes everyone start to look for miracles. Sad.
ReplyDeleteWhoever dat is behind dis ll surely pay 4 d lost souls,wasting souls on d dy of remembering d faithful departed,may they souls rest in perfect peace Amen.Nekky
ReplyDeleteLord have marcy, dis election de fear mi o i go do dis election work so? RIP
ReplyDeleteA tragic one indeed... However, to report 100,000 people!! I think that's an exaggeration... In case you did not know, 2nd November was all souls. Imagine coming to pray for the souls of the faithfully departed, only for your own soul to be added on the list... It is a painful one indeed... May their gentle souls rest in peace....
ReplyDeleteIt is only in Nigeria dat pple die carelessly lik fowls...y on earth would 100,000 pple occupy a place meant for only about 5000 pple,it iz sad!!Wtf
ReplyDeleteWhat caused the stampede remains my question. What where they running from?????
ReplyDeleteI lost my aunt in Fr mbaka's adoration stampede some years back. My God receive ur souls
ReplyDeleteMay God hv mercy on ppl dat lost der lives. Amen....Amen.........Amen.................
ReplyDeleteRough diamond now I no how restless n jobless u are......sorry oh! Stop making fool of urself writing petty petty tins here. If u comment say it once n for all unless u wanna argue wit sum1 or correct sum1. Tufia! May dia souls rest in peace amen! Say amen rough and u beta mean it! Amusu!
ReplyDeleteD stampede started as a result of fire outbreak from a hot fryin oil. D akara woman was by d road bt d crowd were nt patient enough to take turns nd pass tru d exit door. Dis les to pouring away of the oil nd d next avaiable car caught fire. People tot it was bomb nd started running nd d most vulnerable 'mainly children nd women' were pushed down nd trampled upon. My sister was did yday nd i also lost a ten yr broda too. May dia souls rest in peace.
ReplyDeleteNo need to blame peter obi, I was dia life,dat occurs to dose dat don't have patience enough to wait regarding the much crowd.may dia souls rest in peace. #babe
ReplyDeleteNot ordinary..with wat goes down in dz country,,,I'll say dz is not ordinary #didi
ReplyDeleteBROADCAST OF HIS EXCELLENCY, MR. PETER OBI GOVERNOR OF ANAMBRA STATE ON THE UKE STAMPEDE. AWKA NOV. 3RD, 2013
ReplyDeleteNovember 3, 2013 Politics No comments
Gov. Peter Obi
My Dear Ndi Anambra,
With a deep sense of sorrow and sadness, I address you today on the tragedy which befell us yesterday at the Holy Ghost Adoration Ministry, Uke, Idemmili North Local Government Area of Anambra State leading to the death of over twenty persons.
My heart goes out to the immediate families of the deceased, the presiding Priest, Rev. Fr. Emmanuel Obinma, the Catholic Archdiocese of Onitsha and indeed all Anambrarians. I assure you that the Anambra State Government in its usual manner, will give you all the needed support to comfort you at this painful period.
It is, however, necessary to state what happened at the vigil at Uke. The host of the Ministry, Rev. Fr. Emmanuel Obinma had personally delivered a written invitation to me, requesting that I attend the All Saints night prayers (November 1, 2013 being All Saints Day)
In my characteristic manner, I honoured that invitation, arriving the venue at about 10:00pm when the mass started with no more than 10 persons including my elder sister, Rev. Sr. Martina Obi, the National Chairman of APGA, Chief Victor Umeh and others as well as less than half of my security details.
It is worth-mentioning that when I was called upon by the Priest to speak as the Governor of the State at about 12 midnight when the mass ended, a group of people located in three different spots started chanting Ngige slogans and waving the brooms of All Progressives Congress (APC) and the pictures of Dr. Chris Ngige, the APC’s flag bearer in the November 16 Governorship election. It took up to 20 minutes for the priest to calm them down.
I was surprised that some people would turn a prayer ground into a campaign venue.
In my remarks, which lasted no more than five minutes, I promised to sponsor twenty indigent people from among the faithful on pilgrimage, provide access road to the premises and urged all present to pray for Anambra State and Nigeria.
The Presiding priest and all present can testify to this, and it is on tape.
I left the Adoration premises at about 3:00am on Saturday with the persons who came with me and arrived my Lodge at 3:30am only to be told after my broadcast,later in the morning where I renamed the Anambra State University (ANSU) to Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu University that a stampede occurred at the place where I had left three hours previously. I quickly cancelled all my engagements on Saturday and Sunday and started visiting relevant places to get first-hand information on the tragedy.
I appeal to the good people of our dear State to remain calm and prayerful as God who has been with us all this while, will help us to overcome the present sad development so that we can continue the task of turning around our State.
I have directed all security agencies to do everything possible to unearth the cause of this mayhem. A Panel of inquiry will soon be constituted to investigate what happened. Finally, I have declared three days of mourning starting from yesterday in honour of our departed ones. May their souls rest in peace!
Thank you and God bless you!
Okikiola
@ anon 8:16 am, u re such a fool....ask God to forgive u...Ebube muonso that we do go to and see him with full catholic priests rigalia, that's the same person u re saying that he does not put on catholic priests attires.....
ReplyDeleteOkikiola
Life is sooooooooo cheap in Nigeria.
ReplyDeleteMay their soul RIP, so so painful. Fr Ebube Muo-Nso and deceased family, take heart, God will console and give us the heart to bear the loss.
ReplyDeleteLinda respect dead people. Na becos of blog traffic you have to show people in their worse state. Tufiakwa. It is wrong. Money is not everything. Nobody wants the dead body of their loved ones shown like this. It's barbaric.
ReplyDeletePlease ppl shld gt thier facts right. D priest is a Catholic priest.
ReplyDeletePeter obi and his apga people tried to turn it into a political convention. They then asked ppl to vote for obiano but d crowd chanted "onwa" (ngige) saying that's who they wanna vote for. So obi's men unleashed mayhem by trying to shut them up by flogging them. This started the stampede. Abeg make una no cover d truth with frying pan and akara. At that time of d morning???
ReplyDeleteThis is terrible. Peter Obi should know were to draw the line. Coming to campaign in the House of God is a no-no. Its equally unfortunate that MOG allow themselves to be manipulated by politicians. May the souls of the dead rest in peace.
ReplyDelete@rough diamond, u talk lyk a fool wit shallow brain n d way u comment lives mi in curiousity... pls go n slip. May dia souls rest in peace,AMEN.
ReplyDeleteWhat is the definition of insanity??? May help Nigeria & open the eyes of her people.
ReplyDeleteEbube muoso is a tru man of God 4 dose of u talkin rubbish... @jay who is holdin u????
ReplyDeleteMay Almighty God give Ebube Mmuso grace to overcome this mess and temptation, Amen. RIP in perfect peace for those who lost their life, Amen....
ReplyDeletey some pple open dia mouth n say watever cums out 4rm dia mind dnt let God pounish u 4rm wat u jst said 4rm ur mouth, is only God dat knows wat happen, wat we ned is 2 pray 4 dia soul 2 rest in peace. Dis is d work of Devil bt it cannot work 4 dem holy ghost adoration ministry wil keep on moving wder devil lik it or nt
ReplyDeleteGod have mercy for dis Najia ooooooooooooooo
ReplyDeleteThat the hand work ofthe wicked who no wan d progress of adoration ground
ReplyDeleteThis stampede does it resembel milipede?
ReplyDeleteNa wa ooo.wats wrong if peter obi goes 4 all night crusade.is he not human like us.pls pple say wat u knw.only God knws d tru story
ReplyDeletelet this be a lesson to Nigerians. Tomorow they will say its Northerners or muslims that kill for politics and religion.
ReplyDeleteChristains have started o.mixing religion and politics.
ReplyDeleteall you idiots blaming the church or the people going to church shouls just shut up......is this the first time people are gathering for church programme? some things just need common sense and no matter how much you pray if people still do the wrong things and pepetrate evil incidents like this must always happen....something must have happened to cause people to start running helter skelter without focus....we should always learn to be calm and do the right things at all times...
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